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  • fightfan_79
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    Yet another OST Thread....intelligent posters only.

    OK...So i've been reading about all the excuses from BOTH SIDES about why this and why that....

    I have a serious question to the Floyd supporters.....

    All you guys do is "dis-credit" Pacquiao's wins post-Marquez II.....and here is the list according to the majority.

    Diaz = Not that good to begin with....weakest champion....should've fought SOMEONE ELSE OF NOTE (even though no one was readily available)

    DeLaHoya = Drained, Shot, Way Past Prime (which we all know he was except for Manny's Militia) but remember...DLH chose to fight Manny after Mayweather "retired"...and DLH ducked Margarito.

    Hatton = Floyd ruined him, never the same after getting KOd by Floyd (disagree with that due to Hatton Paulie's win was probably his BEST EVER next to Kosta). Floyd supporters stated that Hatton was shot, past it, chinny, straight forward fighter....

    Cotto = Drained, ruined after plaster, 1lb of muscle makes the difference between life and death....

    Clottey = Human punching bag, C level fighter at best (both of which were due to Manny in my opinion), was beat by Cotto, TR kept it in house....

    So here is my question.....IF MANNY IS SO 1 DIMENSIONAL, THE QUALITY OF HIS OPPONENTS SO DISGUSTING, MANNY HAS BEEN DUCKING THE "SLICK BLACK BOXING STYLE ALL HIS CAREER", DUCKED MOSLEY WHEN NO CREDIT WOULD'VE BEEN GIVEN IF MANNY BEAT HIM, FIGHTING 1 DIMENSIONAL STRAIGHT COME AT YOU FIGHTERS.....WHY IS FLOYDS REQUEST OF OST ALL OF A SUDDEN THE BIBILE TO YOU GUYS?

    According to all these threads and comments....Manny is not that good and will get EXPOSED should he ever step foot in the ring with Floyd. So is the request of OST from Floyd really: A) A ploy to win the mental game with Manny? - B) A ready made excuse to not fight Manny? - C) He is really trying to clean up the sport of boxing?

    For the record....Floyd looks pretty bad asking this of a fighter he claims to be able to beat easily, PEDs or not....having 3 L's on his record....handily beating JMM (which means nothing to me)....claiming to be the PPV king....
    and knowing that he and Pacquiao have basically an indentical boxing career starting off at the same ages and weights. (Floyd amatuer ranks and Manny already a 15 yr old professional)

    To counter that...I am fully aware of Team Pacquiao's (not Manny himself) utter BS excuses and am frankly sick and tired of hearing from Roach, Arum and other Manny's Militia......the only thing that mattered is that Manny said that he is willing to comply with the original 14-day cutoff so we should have ourselves a fight now. If Floyd took it off the table in the post Mosley interview....why wouldn't he put it back out there, and we know have ourselves the fight of our generation. Manny should've agreed to take the tests from jump...but what's done is done and I hated Manny for that.

    Pacquiao has budged....Team Mayweather's stmts seem to indicate that the fight will be much harder to make (Sr's interview regarding "never fighting Manny", Floyd's post fight). Negotiate behind closed doors....Pacquiao's stmt was exactly that...A STATEMENT...not negotiating....Floyd is probably vacationing, and well deserved, but please come back with some sense, stop listening to your dumbass of a father, and everyone sign on the dotted line.

    Oh yeah...please respond to my question.....and feel free to comment on my views and opinions.
  • Reloaded
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    I,ll give you a short answer .

    Pac refused to be tested , in todays world of sport thats a big no no .

    If it were Manny asking for thorough random testing I would be all over Floyd if he refused .

    Thats the point the only point , thats the baseline , thats Ground zero .

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    • Naps
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      #3
      **Yawn**..........

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      • MONEYMAY-
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        #4
        I might copy and paste this and turn it in as a study on drug testing essay.

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        • shogunn
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          #5
          Originally posted by Reloaded
          I,ll give you a short answer .

          Pac refused to be tested , in todays world of sport thats a big no no .

          If it were Manny asking for thorough random testing I would be all over Floyd if he refused .

          Thats the point the only point , thats the baseline , thats Ground zero .
          manny didnt refuse testing

          He agreed urine all teh way through. And to be tested immediately after the fight.


          USADA isnt event concerned about blood, since they took MORE urine samples than blood, and didnt take a drop of blood 18 days prior to the fight, or even AFTER. If blood was so vital to their tests you would think they would have taken blood rather than urine. This wasnt the case

          so spare us the bull**** about refusing tests.

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          • Reloaded
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            #6
            Originally posted by shogunn
            manny didnt refuse testing

            He agreed urine all teh way through. And to be tested immediately after the fight.


            USADA isnt event concerned about blood, since they took MORE urine samples than blood, and didnt take a drop of blood 18 days prior to the fight, or even AFTER. If blood was so vital to their tests you would think they would have taken blood rather than urine. This wasnt the case

            so spare us the bull**** about refusing tests.
            He refused random OS blood testing FACT .

            He wants to know a date they will stop testing FACT .

            Seeing your not very smart that means he refused , you dont agree to 1/2 a testing procedure lol , you in or your out , Manny is out .

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            • pasawayako
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              #7
              Originally posted by shogunn
              manny didnt refuse testing

              He agreed urine all teh way through. And to be tested immediately after the fight.


              USADA isnt event concerned about blood, since they took MORE urine samples than blood, and didnt take a drop of blood 18 days prior to the fight, or even AFTER. If blood was so vital to their tests you would think they would have taken blood rather than urine. This wasnt the case

              so spare us the bull**** about refusing tests.
              I think the USADA knows that urine testing is far more accurate than blood testing.

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              • shogunn
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                #8
                Originally posted by Reloaded
                He refused random OS blood testing FACT .

                He wants to know a date they will stop testing FACT .

                Seeing your not very smart that means he refused , you dont agree to 1/2 a testing procedure lol , you in or your out , Manny is out .
                cuz he doesnt want blood taken from him days before the fight. He's said before any of this OST **** came up that he felt weak after giving samples before the morales fight.

                FACT, USADA didnt take a blood sample 18 days prior to the fight, and proceeded with taking urine only. MANNYS original request.

                Are you telling us the USADA didnt test for blood cuz they werent looking to catch the blood only PEDs? so afterall urine did suffice for testing. Is the USADA is into head games now with the "random" bull****?

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                • slickfox
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by pasawayako
                  I think the USADA knows that urine testing is far more accurate than blood testing.
                  shut up...I have noticed you just 100% support whatever manny says. first you were saying they should do only what the comission says but now that manny agreed to do 14 days thats what should be done. All you ever try to do in every post is make manny seem right and floyd seem wrong. When you start thinking like a neutral observer then you will see what is the real problem.

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                  • fightfan_79
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Reloaded
                    I,ll give you a short answer .

                    Pac refused to be tested , in todays world of sport thats a big no no .

                    If it were Manny asking for thorough random testing I would be all over Floyd if he refused .

                    Thats the point the only point , thats the baseline , thats Ground zero .
                    Short and sweet....and surprising from you Re.....

                    And if it were reversed....i co-sign.

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