Who is the better boxer Rafael Marquez or Juan Manuel Marquez

[KingTito]

They're both great, but I'd go with JMM.

[Iceta Lives]

With Katsidis, Nacho said it was a money issue. He said JMM commands 2 mill+ a fight and that Katsidis can't bring that to him.

I think what they want is one big money fight to retire on with someone like Hatton.

As for Tua, he always conveniently leaves out that not only had Casamayor beat Katsidis prior to fighting JMM, but that JMM was 35 or 36 himself.

He also leaves out the fact that Barrera is younger than Marquez as well. The argument that Barrera has been in more wars is invalid since Marquez went 24 rounds w/ Pacquiao himself.

To bring up Medina is just foul. Marquez would beat Medina no matter when they fought.

My favorite guy out of the three amigos is Erik Morales. I like JMM too, and fuckin hate Barrera because of his snug ass attitude and dirty fighting. But I just think legacy wise, Morales blows those two guys out of the water.

Wins over
Junior Jones
Manny Pacquiao (Would've put up better combat in the series if he wasn't past his prime)
In Jin Chi
Barrera (Only lost the other two because he took him lightly)
And there are countless other tough guys on his resume, I just can't think of them off the top of my head. They were all at their peak too except for maybe Zaragosa.

[Dick Buffman]

My favorite guy out of the three amigos is Erik Morales. I like JMM too, and fuckin hate Barrera because of his snug ass attitude and dirty fighting. But I just think legacy wise, Morales blows those two guys out of the water.

Wins over
Junior Jones
Manny Pacquiao (Would've put up better combat in the series if he wasn't past his prime)
In Jin Chi
Barrera (Only lost the other two because he took him lightly)
And there are countless other tough guys on his resume, I just can't think of them off the top of my head. They were all at their peak too except for maybe Zaragosa.

There is an element of class warfare between the 3. Barrera was a lawyer and considers himself an aristocratic upper class Mexican.

The Marquez bros' are from Mexico City also, but they come from an impoverished area so they are what Barrera would consider "new money". And the reason Barrera was such a ****ing prick to Morales is because Morales seems to be an indigenous Mexican with lots of Indian blood from Tijuana and there's nothing that makes Aristocratic Spaniard blooded Mexicans like Barrera more angry than being challenged by someone they used to rule as ******.

[Iceta Lives]

Left Hook is a funny JMM hater. Even funnier than Rich Loc.

[Left Hook Tua]

he doesnt like JMM because of his love for Manny.... there's a static interference there for most manny fans


again, most... not all

nothing to do with pacquiao.

i started liking morales more AFTER he beat pacquiao. something marquez has never done.

my dislike for marquez stems from morales , barrera and hamed.

morales , barrera and hamed fought practically EVERYONE including each other.

yet they "ducked" marquez? give me a freaking break.

hamed offered marquez a fight. he turned it down.

morales offered marquez a fight. he turned that down as well.

he beats a past it barrera and that means he's better?

give me a break.

juan manuel marquez is very overrated by his fans and casuals with limited knowledge. probably because of his tough fights with pacquiao.

ken norton arguably beat muhammad ali 3 times , no one claims he's an atg. some people are just bad styles matchups for fighters much greater than themselves.

[Dick Buffman]

Left Hook is a funny JMM hater. Even funnier than Rich Loc.

Rich Loc's hatred is 1 dimensional. Tua's hate is more robust and nuanced.

Both are totally misguided though in their flagrant disregard for one of the greatest fighters of our time and space.

[Left Hook Tua]

Rich Loc's hatred is 1 dimensional. Tua's hate is more robust and nuanced.

Both are totally misguided though in their flagrant disregard for one of the greatest fighters of our time and space.

chris john must be lord of time and space.

[DeelDough]

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[CaRnAgEViOLaToR]

JMM but its very close..

[Guest]

The poll now looks like Jhonny Gonzales' record.