Who is the better boxer Rafael Marquez or Juan Manuel Marquez

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    #21
    Originally posted by -veteran420-
    he doesnt like JMM because of his love for Manny.... there's a static interference there for most manny fans


    again, most... not all
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    I don;t know why he doesn't like Caballero either.

    That cat is cool, unique and a warrior.

    Yet, Tua doesn't like him.


    I think he likes conformist boxers.

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      #22
      Originally posted by jreckoning
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      I don;t know why he doesn't like Caballero either.

      That cat is cool, unique and a warrior.

      Yet, Tua doesn't like him.


      I think he likes conformist boxers.


      tua is tua is tua... thats about all there is to it

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        #23
        Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
        juan manuel marquez is a great fighters and probable HOFer.

        i don't agree with how people greatly exagerrate his greatness.

        he has great skills but his resume is lacking up to recently (against a very past it casamayor and barrera)

        "claiming" to be ducked by barrera , morales and hamed does NOT add to one's resume.

        juan manuel marquez nuthuggers who overrate him make no sense. they're as bad as *******s and *****s who think their man is GOAT.
        Boxing scene interviewed Erik Morales live on the chat radio show.

        You should find it and listen since I know you like him.

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          #24
          Originally posted by -veteran420-
          tua is tua is tua... thats about all there is to it

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            #25
            Originally posted by jreckoning
            Tua hates Juan Manuel Marquez, but he actually wanted him to beat Valero because he hated Valero worse.

            I don't why Tua doesn't like certain fighters. It's usually the cool, colorful ones with unique styles that he doesn't like.

            No surprise he picked Rafa.
            from 1993 to 2007 , 14 fucking years , juan manuel marquez's BEST WIN was manuel medina.

            unless you want to claim derrick "smoke" gainer.

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              #26
              See, here's the thing. I agree that JMM's best weight is at 135. But I just don't see how Bradley beats him because he's featherfisted and he's a small 140 lber even though he's getting ready to move up in weight. Now I think Bradley would definitely beat Khan head to head, but I think that JMM would stand a better chance at beating Bradley than Khan. Bradley pretty much has a swarming style just like Juan Diaz. He just fights with better defense and throws punches from more different angles, but he's not as aggressive or imposing as the version of Diaz that fought JMM. I really think that the ball is being dropped on JMM's legacy. A fight with Morales does nothing for his legacy, and I know that is who Nacho and JMM is gonna try to go after.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Iceta Lives
                Your posts about JMM are pretty predictable, but I've gotta admit it looks like he's just totally conceding the end of his career when it comes to closing it out with a ****. This Diaz rematch is like the most pointless fight I can think of regardless of how exciting the first fight was.

                I don't want to see Darchinyan get butchered in a mismatch either, but at least Rafael is getting right back in the ring after last night it appears. I think guys like Caballero and Gamboa are high risk, low reward but I'm pretty sure that Rafael will try to go out with a win over Lopez. And if he acheives it, man that would put his brother to shame.

                I know that it appears that GBP screwed JMM out of the money for that fight with Khan, but Nacho admitted he didn't think JMM belonged over 135. Okay, fair play. But who is there for him to fight at 135 that's even in the least bit worthwhile besides Katsidis? Guerrero is a decent opponent too. But Nacho went on record and said he didn't want JMM fighting Katsidis. Okay then, so who is JMM gonna fight after the Diaz rematch? I sometimes understand the dirt you kick on JMM, where Dap just blindly worships him.
                With Katsidis, Nacho said it was a money issue. He said JMM commands 2 mill+ a fight and that Katsidis can't bring that to him.

                I think what they want is one big money fight to retire on with someone like Hatton.

                As for Tua, he always conveniently leaves out that not only had Casamayor beat Katsidis prior to fighting JMM, but that JMM was 35 or 36 himself.

                He also leaves out the fact that Barrera is younger than Marquez as well. The argument that Barrera has been in more wars is invalid since Marquez went 24 rounds w/ Pacquiao himself.

                To bring up Medina is just foul. Marquez would beat Medina no matter when they fought.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by jreckoning

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by jreckoning
                    Boxing scene interviewed Erik Morales live on the chat radio show.

                    You should find it and listen since I know you like him.
                    i actually hated erik morales.

                    i was a big barrera nuthugger.


                    how morales handled fights at the end of his career and how barrera handled his , changed my opinion though.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by jreckoning
                      Boxing scene interviewed Erik Morales live on the chat radio show.

                      You should find it and listen since I know you like him.
                      What did he say???

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