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Why was Michael Spinks known as the greatest light heavyweight ever? Was he really ?

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  • #91
    Originally posted by Super_Lightweight View Post
    Tarver will lose again to B Hop because he is not fast enough nor is he smart enough. Tarver has a chance against anyone, sure, but that can be said for any boxer. The point is, neither Tarver's skills or accomplishments warrant him being considered the best 175 lbs fighter ever.

    I like B Hop to, but I think Tarver will win the rematch. I think Tarver would win casue he's hungry, he really wants it. I think b Hop should give him the rematch. If you notice, B Hop has said lately he isnt interested in a rematch. I think it's because he has more to lose then to gain. Cause Tarver is undefeated in rematches and he really wants this fight.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Super_Lightweight View Post
      Boxing has been around for longer than the 1970's to now. Foster's resume was not all that great but he challenged himself often at heavyweight. Plenty of the old timers I am sure deserve mention but it is hard to judge them because they fought so long ago.
      When spinks was champ, the division was good and he beat everyone available, then he goes up to heavyweight and became linear champ for 3 years, he is great. Roy Jones had the footwork, head movement and combos, the guy was invincible for like 11 years. He loses and thats an excuse that writers make to rank old timers ahead of him,lol.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Mike Tyson77 View Post
        I like B Hop to, but I think Tarver will win the rematch. I think Tarver would win casue he's hungry, he really wants it. I think b Hop should give him the rematch. If you notice, B Hop has said lately he isnt interested in a rematch. I think it's because he has more to lose then to gain. Cause Tarver is undefeated in rematches and he really wants this fight.
        Tarver can make an excuse for all his losses.

        He was beating eric harding till he broke his jaw, then won the rematch.
        Arguably beat roy and glen first time, beat roy twice in rematches and beat glen.
        He had to cut too much weight against b-hop and got tired easily, lets see what happens in a re-match.

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        • #94
          Tarver lost to roy the 1st time, period.
          Tarver cannot use weight as an excuse because he took that away from Roy.
          Tarver will not get a rematch with BHop because he doesn't deserve one.
          There were several heavyweight eras better than the 80s when Spinks was successful.

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          • #95
            Michael Spinks is in my short list, but not at the top.

            My list reads:

            1. Gene Tunney
            2. Sam Langford
            3. Tommy Loughran
            4. Ezzard Charles
            5. Archie Moore
            6. Bob Foster
            7. Michael Spinks
            8. Harry Greb
            9. Philladelphia Jack O'Brein
            10. Billy Conn
            =========

            11. Roy Jones, Jr.
            12. Jack Dillon
            13. Michael Moorer
            also 13. George Carpentier
            Last edited by grayfist; 01-01-2007, 10:52 PM.

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            • #96
              I didn't read tis whole thread so I am not sure if it was mentioned, but I think a pre-Sam Baroudi Ezzard Charles was on the same level was Sugar Ray Robinson imo, he wasn't the same after the fight that led to Baroudi's death.I would put Charles number one with Archie Moore right behind him.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Super_Lightweight View Post
                Tarver lost to roy the 1st time, period.
                Tarver cannot use weight as an excuse because he took that away from Roy.
                Tarver will not get a rematch with BHop because he doesn't deserve one.
                There were several heavyweight eras better than the 80s when Spinks was successful.
                yeah exactly if Roy cant use it, why the **** should he be able to..

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by grayfist View Post
                  Michael Spinks is in my short list, but not at the top.

                  My list reads:

                  1. Gene Tunney
                  2. Sam Langford
                  3. Tommy Loughran
                  4. Ezzard Charles
                  5. Archie Moore
                  6. Bob Foster
                  7. Michael Spinks
                  8. Harry Greb
                  9. Philladelphia Jack O'Brein
                  10. Billy Conn
                  =========

                  11. Roy Jones, Jr.
                  12. Jack Dillon
                  13. Michael Moorer
                  also 13. George Carpentier
                  Yep just pick all the old guys, roy loses and he aint top 10 anymore, lmfao. Harry Greb top 10, wow ****in wow.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by brownpimp88 View Post
                    Yep just pick all the old guys, roy loses and he aint top 10 anymore, lmfao. Harry Greb top 10, wow ****in wow.
                    I'm not the only one who puts Roy lower than Greb. There are many highly respected boxing writers who rank Carpentier, Jack Delaney, Kid McCoy and Tommy Gibbons higher than Jones. And they don't even have to cuss to prove their point.

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                    • Originally posted by grayfist View Post
                      I'm not the only one who puts Roy lower than Greb. There are many highly respected boxing writers who rank Carpentier, Jack Delaney, Kid McCoy and Tommy Gibbons higher than Jones. And they don't even have to cuss to prove their point.
                      Yeah guys like burt sugar rank old guys ahead cuz they grew up watching those guys, they have a bias. For god sakes he ranks pernell 48 of all time, when an intelligent, unbiased person would rank pernell top 30 at minimum. Roy was fighter of the decade, and he was #1 pound for pound for 5 years, how many guys from your list can brag about that, lol not too many right.

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