Bradley slams Khan, confirms Abregu date.

[PittyPat]

Don't nobody be badmouthing my bwoi Urango.

[Pension-Killer]

[QUOTE=MAGIC M.I.B.;8435497]Ok then,

if Witter was shot, then Malignaggi was shot, because he looked less like his peak self in there against Khan than Witter did against Bradley, and beating battle-worn Juan Diaz at practically JWW when the guy's already somewhat blown-up at 135 is no better than a KO win over Viv Harris.

Witter wasn't shot and nor was Paulie. Witter was nearer optimum than Paulie, though, hadn't been taking the damage Paulie had, still presented an awkward target (unlike Malignaggi, who's legs weren't there, who was right in front of Khan instead of circling like he once would have) and had a punch to at least earn respect with (again, unlike Malignaggi).


And I know this wasn't you, BTW, but,

to the guy bleating about Witter-Kotelnik being a robbery, when it was a close fight - close fights aren't robberies. By that standard, Kotelnik had just benefited from a robbery against Maidana going into his fight with Khan.




Ohh, the Zab Judah line, he's a 4 round fighter against top guys - gotcha.
One of Holt's KD's came in the final round, so he can't have switched off that much. He brought his A game to that fight and got outclassed in the 10 rounds between the knockdowns.

Indeed he has a better resume than Khan, that's no doubt, and that's also part why he is the best Jww.[?QUOTE]
A significantly better one, at that. So that's why he gets some benefit of the doubt that he actually does want to be in the ring with any of his better JWW peers anytime soon. Once again, he was already due to be fighting Khan's mandatory for him, until that guy pulled out twice.

Tim has given us way more proof of his willingness to fight live, prime threats in his own division than Team Khan has given of their boy's.

End of story. Khan boosters have no room to talk about anything until Khan-Maidana is signed for the Fall.




I'm not even contesting that. We don't know what Bradley will commit to after fighting Abregu anymore than we know what Khan will commit to after the projected July date.

Actually, I've got a pretty good idea re. Khan - he'll be fighting the Marquez-Diaz II winner. Feel free to bump if I'm wrong.

Er everyone has been saying Paulie was shot.

Some believed he was back because of Juan.

I believe Paulie is not the same fighter as before, but what impressed me was Khan had no trouble at all.

Witter was getting potshotted and was pretty much standing there. Bradley was virtually unknown when he came up and Witter seemed surprised.

Paulie ducked and did move, but Khan was faster.

Witter didn't push for it at all to get to that range.

Holt got a late KD, but Bradley even mentioned in an interview damn I got dropped, I was like I don't want him to get close. I'm winning this.

Something along trhose lines from memory - which isn't that clear lol.

Kotelnik got hit a lot wirth arm punches, which is a block. Close but Maidana's ahrd work went mainly to the arms if you watch it. Maidana had his hands very low and got jabbed and hit aswell.

Khan was under Warren who is not as good as shaw imo. Shaw has some bad moments but also with some fighters he cares like frank maloney type.

If Khan was a duck for talking about money fior Maidana, then Bradley can be atleast called it, because Alex is a threat to Bradley as Maidana to Khan's chin.

But I personally don't think they are ducks. I just wnat them to fight and make it happen, as I did with Khan and Maidana before.

[lfc19titles]

Ok bradley if thats the way then duck alexander, then wait until next march when khan is done with his july 31st fight and the maidana one.

I really think bradley is just a coward now, the way he is trying to make a claim to number 1 and then refusing to fight number 2 is poor stuff

[David_TheMan]

Bradley is smart as hell, he can see the big picture, unlike that dumb ass Kevin Cunningham. Bradley wants him and Devon to make big money, not be setup by Khan so that Khan can walk to the final round.

Like I have said before, if HBO wants this to happen, they are better off canceling this dumbass tourny, and simply making a big purse for Alexander v. Bradley for the undisputed Championship, no reason at all for Khan or Maidana to be in the preceedings. If they need a tourny, it makes no sense for Maidana to be in it, but if he is going to be in it, Bradley should fight him, and Alexander and Khan should fight in the other bracket.

[MOTHER DUCKER]

"Blown out"? "Or something"? Did you watch the Mabuza-Holt fight? Do you even know who Mabuza is?

Are any of you dudes watching fights, for that matter, excepting P-K?

A bunch of these guys are losing because they're fighting each other right when they represent a threat.

Who's Khan fighting that represents a real prime threat in his division? Maidana will be the first in the Roach era, IF that fight gets made.

Holt wasn't near being sparked out, BTW. You can talk about headbutts, but the fact is Torres is hittable at the best of times, that fight was a wildass shootout, Holt has a punch and he KTFO'd Torres with it.


He's 3-3 because he's fighting guys - live, prime threats in his division who weren't selected for safety. So mock him for being 3-3 in his last 6, but at least he can say those 3 losses came from real tests.

Holt's a B level talent fighter.

Dear god your a moron if you think that, Torres had him on the canvas twice and i will talk about headbutts.. so what Torres is open to being punched? he beat him the first time. The ****ing headbutt setup that ko take your own advice and go watch the actual fight.

Hilarious.. yes these guys are threats to Holt because he is not very good..

Whatever im not gonna try and change your deluded view that Kendall Holt is some good win

[Pension-Killer]

Dear god your a moron if you think that, Torres had him on the canvas twice and i will talk about headbutts.. so what Torres is open to being punched? he beat him the first time. The ****ing headbutt setup that ko take your own advice and go watch the actual fight.

Hilarious.. yes these guys are threats to Holt because he is not very good..

Whatever im not gonna try and change your deluded view that Kendall Holt is some good win

Oh yes I just remembered Holt losing recently lol. I was shocked but also not that surprised.

The Torress fight was exciting and I recall that KO, Torres was there to be hit after that headbutt.

D Hop aswell...

As stated, Holt is on Torress's level at best.

Holt is a good win, but he is a limited fighter.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

Er everyone has been saying Paulie was shot.

Err, no. A bunch of Khan fans have been spinning it that Paulie was prime and coming off his 'career best performance' against Diaz. One of them has even posted in this thread.

Those people are idiots, but plenty of impartial others have observed that, while he was not near his best, he wasn't shot.

You, and others, are using terms like 'shot' too *******ly.

Some believed he was back because of Juan.

I believe Paulie is not the same fighter as before, but what impressed me was Khan had no trouble at all.

Witter was getting potshotted and was pretty much standing there. Bradley was virtually unknown when he came up and Witter seemed surprised.

Paulie ducked and did move, but Khan was faster.

Witter didn't push for it at all to get to that range.

In spirit, Paulie was back. In the physical form, not so much.

Tim wasn't exactly troubled by Witter, either. Many observers believed the cards were too close for Witter, and it's actually testament to how well Tim dominated the fight that he was able to take that decision in the UK.

When Paulie's moving backwards in front of Khan, instead of circling, Khan gets credit for his speed? But Bradley gets no credit for tactically, patiently dissecting Witter's style in the first half of the fight -- a problem style which typically perplexes and frustrates his opponents -- and then taking over in the 2nd half, dropping Witter and beating him comfortably at his own awkward chess game?

That Junior Witter is a more solid opponent than the Malignaggi who Khan faced.

Holt got a late KD, but Bradley even mentioned in an interview damn I got dropped, I was like I don't want him to get close. I'm winning this.

He was winning it. That doesn't change that Holt brought a good, consistent fight to Bradley - Bradley just had answers.

Kotelnik got hit a lot wirth arm punches, which is a block. Close but Maidana's ahrd work went mainly to the arms if you watch it. Maidana had his hands very low and got jabbed and hit aswell.

I'm not making a case for Maidana winning his fight with Kotelnik. I'm saying to that other guy, close fights aren't robberies.

If Khan was a duck for talking about money fior Maidana, then Bradley can be atleast called it, because Alex is a threat to Bradley as Maidana to Khan's chin.

I'm not saying call Khan a duck (yet), I'm saying there's a greater case for Khan being one than there is for Bradley, while Khan fans are stomping round talking about how Tim ducked this and that. Tim has some actual previous form for taking challenges at the weight and not just fighting guys selected for a lack of threat - he's given us way more proof of his willingness to fight live, prime threats in his own division than Team Khan has given of theirs. Again, that's why he gets some benefit of the doubt that he actually does want to be in the ring with any of his better JWW peers anytime soon and that he isn't straight ducking Alexander.

Again, we don't know what Bradley will commit to after fighting Abregu. But we know that Schaefer wants Khan-Marquez for the Fall, after Khan's projected July date.

Until Khan-Maidana is announced, the jury's still out on whether or not Khan's going to be taking any of his real peers in the division soon.


If Alexander fans want to call Bradley a duck, that's one thing - but Khan fans? Khan's team were about to let Timmy clean up Khan's madatory for him.

But I personally don't think they are ducks. I just wnat them to fight and make it happen, as I did with Khan and Maidana before.

If Khan-Maidana is made for Khan's next fight after the projected July date, then it's all good.

If we get Khan vs. Marquez-Diaz II winner, well, that's a different story.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

Dear god your a moron if you think that, Torres had him on the canvas twice and i will talk about headbutts.. so what Torres is open to being punched? he beat him the first time. The ****ing headbutt setup that ko take your own advice and go watch the actual fight.

Hilarious.. yes these guys are threats to Holt because he is not very good..

Whatever im not gonna try and change your deluded view that Kendall Holt is some good win

It wasn't an intentional butt - it's a fight, **** happens when things get wild, Torres got KTFO, end of story.

Torres had Holt on the canvas twice, supposedly close to being sparked, yet Holt had enough left to knock him smooth out seconds later? Get a clue - fighters being knocked down and coming back to make it competetive happens, you're talking as if Holt was staggering around on rubber legs when in reality he jumped straight back up from both knockdowns with good legs and a clear head then started scrapping.

Here's the fight,




Torres is another B fighter whom Holt split honors with in a pair of bouts. Bradley is the best at JWW. Mabuza looks limited, but we know how seemingly limited guys can be effective. Holt lost to these fighters because he fought them, prime threats in his weightclass, the kind Khan hasn't faced yet. Khan vs. the Torres that Holt fought? Khan vs. Bradley? Even this Mabuza guy could give Khan some **** to think about, go watch the dude before you talk about him.

Kendall Holt in 2009 is a better win than Kotelnik, Salita (LMAO) or a 2010 Malignaggi, so quit with the ignorance.


BTW, the moron is the guy who throws the word 'robbery' around like it has no meaning.

[Pension-Killer]

Err, no. A bunch of Khan fans have been spinning it that Paulie was prime and coming off his 'career best performance' against Diaz. One of them has even posted in this thread.

Those people are idiots, but plenty of impartial others have observed that, while he was not near his best, he wasn't shot.

You, and others, are using terms like 'shot' too *******ly.



In spirit, Paulie was back. In the physical form, not so much.

Tim wasn't exactly troubled by Witter, either. Many observers believed the cards were too close for Witter, and it's actually testament to how well Tim dominated the fight that he was able to take that decision in the UK.

When Paulie's moving backwards in front of Khan, instead of circling, Khan gets credit for his speed? But Bradley gets no credit for tactically, patiently dissecting Witter's style in the first half of the fight -- a problem style which typically perplexes and frustrates his opponents -- and then taking over in the 2nd half, dropping Witter and beating him comfortably at his own awkward chess game?

That Junior Witter is a more solid opponent than the Malignaggi who Khan faced.



He was winning it. That doesn't change that Holt brought a good, consistent fight to Bradley - Bradley just had answers.



I'm not making a case for Maidana winning his fight with Kotelnik. I'm saying to that other guy, close fights aren't robberies.



I'm not saying call Khan a duck (yet), I'm saying there's a greater case for Khan being one than there is for Bradley, while Khan fans are stomping round talking about how Tim ducked this and that. Tim has some actual previous form for taking challenges at the weight and not just fighting guys selected for a lack of threat - he's given us way more proof of his willingness to fight live, prime threats in his own division than Team Khan has given of theirs. Again, that's why he gets some benefit of the doubt that he actually does want to be in the ring with any of his better JWW peers anytime soon and that he isn't straight ducking Alexander.

Again, we don't know what Bradley will commit to after fighting Abregu. But we know that Schaefer wants Khan-Marquez for the Fall, after Khan's projected July date.

Until Khan-Maidana is announced, the jury's still out on whether or not Khan's going to be taking any of his real peers in the division soon.


If Alexander fans want to call Bradley a duck, that's one thing - but Khan fans? Khan's team were about to let Timmy clean up Khan's madatory for him.



If Khan-Maidana is made for Khan's next fight after the projected July date, then it's all good.

If we get Khan vs. Marquez-Diaz II winner, well, that's a different story.

OK maybe shot is too easy to say, but out of prime.

Paulie was dominated every round bar maybe 1. In his own City also.

The witter win was good, I said it, but Witter was not in prime. There! Witter won soem rounds, but Bradley was a surprise. I recall the video pre fight of them (trainer) saying no one trains ahrd as this man etc...

It's for real.

Khan beat Paulie by boxing him. No one else beat him by boxing like that.
Pretty impressive to me. Khan jabbed Paulie and he had no way to go, he did try to mvoe around but Khan controlled the distance very well as he stated.

Clsoe fights aren;t robberies I agree. But still unfair.

Bradley had answers but Holt isn;'t very good. It's a good win, He boxed great, but Holt is not a good fighter man.


If Khan doesnt face Maidana, I will be disapointed. I was already before Paulie because Khan can beat him if he boxes smart.

Bradley is a good fighter, best at 140,m but he should say make it happen IMO. I'm just saying when Khan's team used the Miadana isn't a big name, he was called a duck, and rightfully so.

Bradley can be called that too. Khan fans say it? Well it;'s boxing, I'm a boxing fan.

This tourney will be great for boxing.

If Marquez Juan face Khan, then OK he is a duck.

[BetterCallSaul]

The fact is, it is easy to pick holes in any boxers record, From my stand point Khan, Bradley, and Alexander haven't proven much to seperate themselves from each other. Bradley has a better record than both Khan and Alexander, but not by much. Certainly not enough to warrant the 140 crown that most people have already put on his head. For now, we should stop arguing about minor details, and let the supposed LWW tournament sort out the kings from the queens. I've got Khan. You might have Bradley or Alexander. We'll see what happens.