If a "roided" Pacquiao got outboxed by Marquez twice...

[Boss Don]

Shane was "dirty". You'll still benefit from steroids etc years after you took them.

I don't know but I know Shane took the test and we knew he was clean when he fought Floyd and if Pacquiao would takes the test then we will know he is clean to

[Boss Don]

i beg to disagree with your statement that cotto's power is overrated.

but i do see your point. that's is why merchant once said pac is a victim of his own success. i don't know if have read that one, but he reasoned there that pac's achievement lately has never been done before that is why he is greatly suspected.

in my opinion, pac became a beast since he was approaching or he's body already primed and he is at his perfect weight class. pac used to weigh 145-150 normally. he cuts weight up to 130 lbs during fights and then rehydrate up to 146 lbs. basing to all the facts, reducing much weight causes you a lot, you'll either be weight drained or you'll have lesser punch resistance.
now, pac doesn't have to do that... he just have to train hard and eat all that he can.
ariza also had made a lot good work, since he applied the thing "plyometrics" or something like that. idk what its name. where in it is proven scientifically to be wonderful. higher weight, while maintaining speed and gaining power.

i respect your opinion, but i do believe pac is not on something...
and i guess i'll argue with you any day of the week if you allow me to explain..

I respect your opinion to I respect everybodys opinion im just a boxing fan that wants what everybody else wants to see Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Manny Pacquiao but I just want both fighters to be clean when they fight thats all

[fcastro1]

lol I always do my homework buddy and yes i did watch that fight and I think Pacquiao is a diffrent fighter now but hey everybody in entitled to their own opinion and in mines ever since the David Diaz fight Pacquiao has been a totally diffrent fighter but you can have your opinion to

how does peds help u gain a right hand or improve footwork or allow u to follow a gameplan. we all knew pac had the narural abilities to fight that way but it took work and effort ro get to where he is now. like i keep telling people if peds really drastically change a fighter then how come theirs not many fighters around that are on pacs level. You would think if these drugs were so available we would see fighters performing at a an elite level like pac.

[Bring It On]

I don't know but I know Shane took the test and we knew he was clean when he fought Floyd and if Pacquiao would takes the test then we will know he is clean to

Actually, we don't. Not even OST catches everything, like SARMs for example. There's no test today that detects those substances, as far as I know.

And, if he was benefiting from PED use earlier on (which is likely) then why shouldn't that count as dirty? I thought that was the problem, that Floyd's opponents might be benefiting from PEDs?

[Bring It On]

how does peds help u gain a right hand or improve footwork or allow u to follow a gameplan.

A-side meth does all that, bro. It's a miracle drug from the Philippines. True story.

[odogg8121]

...then what's troubling Floyd from fighting Manny without OST?

I really didnt want to go here yet again but, Pac was not on anything in those fights. Like at him them compared to now...

[Pogue69]

how does peds help u gain a right hand or improve footwork or allow u to follow a gameplan. we all knew pac had the narural abilities to fight that way but it took work and effort ro get to where he is now. like i keep telling people if peds really drastically change a fighter then how come theirs not many fighters around that are on pacs level. You would think if these drugs were so available we would see fighters performing at a an elite level like pac.

PEDS such as EPO and Anti-Myostatin allow you to train harder, longer and more often while recovering faster. This enables the user to work more in the gym to learn what he needs to learn. Contrary to what many people seem to think, they do not help you on the night of the fight, as they are not a stimulant. When they are cycled during training is when they are effective.

I do not know if he is 'roiding or not, but in the age of sports that we are in, can we be 100% certain that somebody is not 'roiding?

[mathed]

Floyd is gonna retire again and Pac is fighting Margarito anyways so why still talk about a fight that isn't gonna happen?

We all know the outcome....years from know we all know who will get blamed. Mayweather for bringing up the issue, people are gonna thin he was scared

[MaD RoBoT]

Keep up, Pac didn't start roiding until he fought the immortal David Diaz.

Dumb ass.

so why there's no steroid talk after he beat David Diaz?

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

How do we know when Pac started roiding if he is?

He could have started all the PED's when he ran from Marquez after the second fight & started all this climbing weight classes & forcing catchweights to win titles BS.

so he started roiding after several years fighting at 126 & 130 coming in at 143-147 on fight night. now he's fighting welterweights & junior welterweights weighing less than welterweights & junior welterweights on fight night while his opponents are coming in as junior middles & middleweights?





why dont you do us a favor & disappear again & take marquez's piss with you.