Comments Thread For: Team Pacquiao: Ready For Mayweather Bout in November

[jtiger78]

Ummm let's see...

Margarito who? - duck
Cotto who? - duck
Pacquiao...

ok thats your opinion but what does that have to do with this fight being made or the test u didnt answer the question

[checko12]

Very untrue. PEDs almost immediately leaves the urine. The only way to catch it is with random blood testing. It's similar to when you take a vitamin, you immediately smell it in your urine but after 2 to 3 urinates you no longer smell it. My understanding is it leaves your urinary tract as quick as that. Team Pac knows this which really spells guilt. They want announced testing or 24 days before the fight which is exactly why Manny will be fighting Margacheato in Nov. They have no intentions of fighting PBF. Their in a challengers position making demands. It's not gonna happen.

I don't know where you're getting your info from but it's wrong and if vitamins are your argument then your totally in the dark. Sorry, but please go back and look at my source. From a clinical standpoint- detecting any substances abuse whether it be habitual drugs or ped's can be detected with the RIGHT urine test and random blood testing within a 14+ days window especially when paraphernalia is used in cycles and in this case for any steroid or HGH usage to be effective, it would have to be done in cycles. I believe Manny did agree to have testing done within this time frame and immediately after the fight if I'm not mistaken.

What I do not agree to is Manny's initial reasoning and hindrance. I do not agree with the people who are advising him, Top Rank's way of handling negotiations and all of these reports that have surfaced within the past couple of days about negotiations "starting" with Pac and Floyd when we all know it's not true. I definitely want to see these two in the ring but Manny needs to step up and if Floyd did agree to 14 days in the initial negotiations it would be nonsensical to go back on it now.

[Fistic]

Does ****** realize that the Commission rules include weight penalties?

I believe that the NSAC traditionaly uses 10oz gloves for their fights too, but Team Pac always ask for the 8ozs and gets them SMH

[Bee Keepz]

ok thats your opinion but what does that have to do with this fight being made or the test u didnt answer the question

Damn, man.

Pacquiao test - duck.

[jtiger78]

Ummm let's see...

Margarito who? - duck
Cotto who? - duck
Pacquiao...

thats sad that even after marg was caught with plaster people still say floyd ducked him wouldnt it have made sense now that he didnt fight that cheater???? have u seen cotto since that fight???? thank God they didnt fight right?????? and floyd dismantled the man that destroyed marg. and do your research arum was a big part of the margarito fight not happening

[jtiger78]

Damn, man.

Pacquiao test - duck.

ok now lets deal with this ... how is it a duck when if pac take the test the fight happens a duck would be if he didnt entertain the fight at all the excuses and duck seems to be coming from pac or maybe his contradicting camp

Blah blah blah, Make the fight and stop hiding behind a commissions back.. I see you didnt need a commission when inserting $10 million penalties for your opponent coming one pound over weight, You didnt need the commission when you fought Cotto at 145, You didnt need the same commission when you fought a drained Morales with penalties stipulated in the contract, Now that you have a high-profile opponent who also have the power to throw some stipulation back at you in a contract you all of a sudden want everyone to abide by the commission's rules....Sign the contract or retire and STFU.

[Sugar Q]

ok now lets deal with this ... how is it a duck when if pac take the test the fight happens a duck would be if he didnt entertain the fight at all the excuses and duck seems to be coming from pac or maybe his contradicting camp

Blah blah blah, Make the fight and stop hiding behind a commissions back.. I see you didnt need a commission when inserting $10 million penalties for your opponent coming one pound over weight, You didnt need the commission when you fought Cotto at 145, You didnt need the same commission when you fought a drained Morales with penalties stipulated in the contract, Now that you have a high-profile opponent who also have the power to throw some stipulation back at you in a contract you all of a sudden want everyone to abide by the commission's rules....Sign the contract or retire and STFU.

Jtigz you da man for that one. :-)

[Sugar Q]

thats sad that even after marg was caught with plaster people still say floyd ducked him wouldnt it have made sense now that he didnt fight that cheater???? have u seen cotto since that fight???? thank God they didnt fight right?????? and floyd dismantled the man that destroyed marg. and do your research arum was a big part of the margarito fight not happening

Not only that, I got a feeling Cheato was using too. He get's beat down in the early rounds yet he always comes back in the later rounds. A cheater is a cheater. I just hope he juices up against Manny. Cheater vs Cheater

[checko12]

besides the whole 2 pound thing when did floys "cheat" or have an advantage? i know u love pac man its your right but answer me this... would u yourself take the test in order to make the biggest fight in boxing history?

this post by another poster is pretty good to whats your response to this

Blah blah blah, Make the fight and stop hiding behind a commissions back.. I see you didnt need a commission when inserting $10 million penalties for your opponent coming one pound over weight, You didnt need the commission when you fought Cotto at 145, You didnt need the same commission when you fought a drained Morales with penalties stipulated in the contract, Now that you have a high-profile opponent who also have the power to throw some stipulation back at you in a contract you all of a sudden want everyone to abide by the commission's rules....Sign the contract or retire and STFU.

This is the thing about negotiations especially with one as heated and as high profiled such as this. It almost seems as if things are just being pulled out of nowhere and in all fairness, we know absolutely nothing about what was said in litigation.

1. The $10M penalty is not excessive, in fact it is by the books according to the commission. 20% of the purse if you come in 2 pounds over, per pound. Manny simply wanted the penalty to start at the first pound over. Half that penalty goes to the commission, the other to the opponent. 20% of a $50M purse is $10M.

2. Cotto fought Pac a pound below what he fought Clottey at and a pound and some change at what he fought Margarito at. If I'm not mistaken that's still well within welter limits.

3. Morales fought in between 128 and 130 most of his career which wasn't a surprise when he came into the ring weighing the same weight he registered at. That's not drained.

All of these rules were and are coherent to those of the commission so any argument that says otherwise is misleading to say the least. The one thing we do know is that blood tests were not and with Pacquiao agreeing to do so, whether there was some reluctance, is a big concession on his part. Floyd's no different and has fared well with the commission rules up until he was considering a fight with Manny so the notion of Floyd wanting to even out a level playing field is erroneous when he too has been protected and deemed the NSAC a fair factor in upholding match up integrity.

[Brail]

Ummm let's see...

Margarito who? - duck
Cotto who? - duck
Pacquiao...

Have you notice these are all Bob Arum/Top rank Fighters?


Read between the lines....