what would be pac's record if he goes thru floyd's resume?

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  • etlux
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    #31
    Originally posted by dans
    That is a legendary record. My god. How do you keep fighting? What's funny is he actually fought a couple of decent fighters. Fought Angel Mandfredy and Antwun Echols.
    all his losses are by KO too. I'd be highly shocked if this guy doesn't have severe brain damage.

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      #32
      I keep seeing numbers thrown out. But, nobody has yet put names with those numbers.

      I want to see names.

      So far I have an overrated, old ass, inactive, part time boxer full time promoter beating Pac.

      Who else?

      I heard anywhere from 4-10.... Who?

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        #33
        41-0-0 (39 KO's)

        two fighters he won't be able to KO..
        Zab Judah & Sharmba Mitchell

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          #34
          Originally posted by geribeetus
          jlc was at 135. i think lw pac could do it. he was still improving, but he was getting there
          Tru that would have been a crazy war.

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            #35
            Originally posted by etlux
            the *******s for some reason are taking this thread to mean PRIME Pac (i.e. Pac now going through all of Floyd's opponents. That's not how you do it. You have to take into consideration the relative skill level of Pac at each stage of the game. For example, let's say Castillo was Floyd's roughly 20-25th fight (I can't remember exactly). Pac was still getting brutally KTFO in like his 30 some odd fight by Torrecampo. Pac at that time ****** ass and was one dimensional as hell. That means Castillo would have annihilated that Pac easily in like 3 rounds or less. That also means that other guys around that time like Corrales would have annihilated Pac as well. So Pac would acquire at least 5 early losses if he lost to guys like Torrecampo and whoever the other no name KTFO him early in his career.
            Then by the time Pac starts hitting his stride and facing the latter part of Floyd's resume like Gatti, Judah, Baldomir, Hatton etc Pac would be KTFO'ing them all but he'd get KO'd by the 154lbs Oscar that Floyd fought unless he drained him again like he did in his own fight.
            If we are going by that in the bold. Then should we also be going by age then?

            I am just saying would that be fair? are we counting when Pac was a teen with 20 something fights. While Floyd was in his 20's with 20 something fights?

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              #36
              Originally posted by jrosales13
              I keep seeing numbers thrown out. But, nobody has yet put names with those numbers.

              I want to see names.

              So far I have an overrated, old ass, inactive, part time boxer full time promoter beating Pac.

              Who else?

              I heard anywhere from 4-10.... Who?
              Corrales, Castillo twice, Oscar (that's 4 losses) a few earlier losses perhaps emanuel augustus, genaro hernandez, Jesus Chavez, that could be anywhere up to 6-8 losses so far (Pac was green at this point and wouldn't have handled these veterans well)
              Then Shane Mosley is arguable and a prime Hatton that Floyd fought is arguable not the demolished ruined version that Pac fought after Floyd already ruined him and Lazcano took his soul. So this could be anywhere from 8 to 12 losses or so

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                #37
                Originally posted by etlux
                Corrales, Castillo twice, Oscar (that's 4 losses) a few earlier losses perhaps emanuel augustus, genaro hernandez, Jesus Chavez, that could be anywhere up to 6-8 losses so far (Pac was green at this point and wouldn't have handled these veterans well)
                Then Shane Mosley is arguable and a prime Hatton that Floyd fought is arguable not the demolished ruined version that Pac fought after Floyd already ruined him and Lazcano took his soul. So this could be anywhere from 8 to 12 losses or so
                Thank you sir... True colors but thanks....

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                • etlux
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                  #38
                  Now could Floyd have gone through Pac's resume is the better question.

                  Obviously all the lower weight class bums Pac fought would be easy.
                  I honestly don't see anyone that would give Floyd problems. Maybe prime Barrera that's it. Erik would have been too reckless and got countered and KTFO by Floyd. Barrera would be more patient and give Floyd problems ala Castillo.

                  all the late career fights, drained Oscar, ruined Hatton LoL all easy. Clottey? LoL this would look like Hopkins vs. Winky. Easy UD, possible corner stoppage late rounds for Floyd.

                  Slightly more prime JMM at lower weights? I don't know the JMM Floyd fought was small compared to him but Floyd didn't impose his physical prowess, even while heavier he was ten times faster than him and still fought defensively and dominated him easily so imagine the MONSTER 130's lbs Floyd? He'd annihilate JMM.

                  Point is this:

                  Floyd gets through Pac's resume far more easily than Pac gets through Floyd's.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by etlux
                    Now could Floyd have gone through Pac's resume is the better question.

                    Obviously all the lower weight class bums Pac fought would be easy.
                    I honestly don't see anyone that would give Floyd problems. Maybe prime Barrera that's it. Erik would have been too reckless and got countered and KTFO by Floyd. Barrera would be more patient and give Floyd problems ala Castillo.

                    all the late career fights, drained Oscar, ruined Hatton LoL all easy. Clottey? LoL this would look like Hopkins vs. Winky. Easy UD, possible corner stoppage late rounds for Floyd.

                    Slightly more prime JMM at lower weights? I don't know the JMM Floyd fought was small compared to him but Floyd didn't impose his physical prowess, even while heavier he was ten times faster than him and still fought defensively and dominated him easily so imagine the MONSTER 130's lbs Floyd? He'd annihilate JMM.

                    Point is this:

                    Floyd gets through Pac's resume far more easily than Pac gets through Floyd's.
                    Well wouldn't weight be an issue?

                    I have notice some double standard in your posts.

                    Why so biased my man?

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by jrosales13
                      Thank you sir... True colors but thanks....
                      not saying he'd lose for definite to all of those, they are only arguable as I said. The only sure shots he'd lose to are 154 Oscar, Corrales and Castillo (remember this isn't prime for prime this is prime Corrales/Castillo vs. a slightly green Pac) and then he'd have trouble and possibly lose to Ndou, Sosa, Chavez at that point of his career

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