**2002 Jose Luis Castillo vs 2008 Manny Pacquiao @ 135...?

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  • bojangles1987
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    #21
    Speed kills. 135 Pac had started to become the fighter he is now, I think his athleticism gives him a big edge. Pac by UD.

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      #22
      Originally posted by DLT
      come on man, you cant count throw away fights like that. He was off for 7 months and just wanted a tuneup before the Chico fight against an average opponent. That **** aint nothing like facing JLC. Im not making excuses. I just think 2 things about Floyd. He's going to win by alot in most cases but that doesnt mean you are always going to get the good Floyd. I think some fights he just comes in to pat & run. The other thing is that in some fights against much bigger guys, he's just going to tap & run if he doesnt feel comfortable at that weight yet.

      People try to play it now like he's picking on all these small guys when he had a ton of fights where guys outweighed him by alot in the ring, including against JLC who was much bigger & stronger. When Floyd did fight back he would get the best of him but his mindset most of the time was to stick & move. Pac wouldnt be undersized and he wouldnt be moving anywhere but forward. JLC's defense is average and Pac's Southpaw style would **** his world up just like he was doing in sparring
      Actually Emanuel Augusts is better than an average fighter. Much better than his record indicates. To not let his record fool you. Average he is not. And, it was a LW fight.

      Floyd had 5 fights at LW not 4, 5 The Augustus fight was he first not Castillo.

      Average? Pfft.

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      • Khalid X
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        #23
        Originally posted by IMDAZED
        The reason Castillo gave Floyd trouble in both fights was because he came forward behind a long, effective jab. Castillo, like his idol, will forever be noted for his work in close quarters but watch his two fights with Stevie Johnston. His skill level wasn't just good, it was elite.
        I know bro but honestly didn't Morales do the same thing with his lead jab and also his straight right hand? He was effective against Pac in the first fight but in the 2nd and 3rd fight , what I saw was that style wouldn't work against Pac anymore (Cotto did the same thing with applying pressure behind a lead left jab). I'm not saying Castillo isn't skilled, I just feel Morales is the very best at that style of fighting. That is just my opinion on things and maybe I'm over hyping Morales, but honestly I have never seen anyone better than him at that style.

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        • Doctor_Tenma
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          #24
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          Hard to say. Didn't see Pac against anyone at 135. And I'd tab Castillo to beat Marquez, for instance. Too close to call.
          Agree man, I have no answer here.

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          • Dick Buffman
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            #25
            Prime Castillo (Corrales 1 version) works Pac over at 135.

            He had the skills, chin and power to stop him.

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            • IMDAZED
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              #26
              Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
              I know bro but honestly didn't Morales do the same thing with his lead jab and also his straight right hand? He was effective against Pac in the first fight but in the 2nd and 3rd fight , what I saw was that style wouldn't work against Pac anymore (Cotto did the same thing with applying pressure behind a lead left jab). I'm not saying Castillo isn't skilled, I just feel Morales is the very best at that style of fighting. That is just my opinion on things and maybe I'm over hyping Morales, but honestly I have never seen anyone better than him at that style.
              Morales was shot in the second and third fights hence, I took nothing away from those bouts.

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              • B.U.R.N.E.R
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                #27
                Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
                I know bro but honestly didn't Morales do the same thing with his lead jab and also his straight right hand? He was effective against Pac in the first fight but in the 2nd and 3rd fight , what I saw was that style wouldn't work against Pac anymore (Cotto did the same thing with applying pressure behind a lead left jab). I'm not saying Castillo isn't skilled, I just feel Morales is the very best at that style of fighting. That is just my opinion on things and maybe I'm over hyping Morales, but honestly I have never seen anyone better than him at that style.
                Morales was shot in those last 2 fights.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by jrosales13
                  Actually Emanuel Augusts is better than an average fighter. Much better than his record indicates. To not let his record fool you. Average he is not. And, it was a LW fight.

                  Floyd had 5 fights at LW not 4, 5 The Augustus fight was he first not Castillo.

                  Average? Pfft.


                  i think Augustus gives PAC more problems than JLC

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                  • GoogleMe
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                    #29
                    JLC will win by going to the body.

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                    • Doctor_Tenma
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Makavelli
                      i think Augustus gives PAC more problems than JLC
                      Lets chill here. Augustus would give Pacquiao problems but not to the extent that JLC would. I still remember that Augustus vs. Micky Ward classic!

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