Miguel Cotto [Prime] vs Oscar De La Hoya [version Floyd fought] @ 154lbs

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  • jrosales13
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    #41
    Originally posted by Smooth Criminal
    Whitaker arguably beat Oscar, and Oscar arguably beat Mosley in the rematch.

    Oscar was fine, until he lost the weight to fight Forbes. He got busted up for the first time in his career, which is why Roach baited him into the fight with Pacquiao.
    How was Oscar fine? Because he beat two guys that Tito ruined? Or because he "arguably" beat a guy who is not any good at that weight-class?

    This is what I am talking about Oscar being the most overrated fighter in the last 10 years. ****er did ****... And, people want to act like he was still good.

    He was "fine" Until 2003 after that he lost it. After the Shane he was not a real fighter anymore.

    God you're dumb...

    The man after the Shane fight became a full time promoter and a part time fighter.

    He was not "fine" after 2003 man stop overrating this ****er.

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      #42
      Originally posted by No Ceilings
      Cotto loses to that Oscar.

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        #43
        Oscars best = better than Cotto's best


        .....by a long way


        but he was faded a bit when Floyd fought him at 54, and Cotto was arguably peak, but again Oscar has a chin...... so at that particular time it is a toss up

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          #44
          Originally posted by jrosales13
          I get you dont like him but lets be serious here. I mean have we even seen Cotto at 154 yet or did I miss something?

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            #45
            Originally posted by jrosales13
            How was Oscar fine? Because he beat two guys that Tito ruined? Or because he "arguably" beat a guy who is not any good at that weight-class?

            This is what I am talking about Oscar being the most overrated fighter in the last 10 years. ****er did ****... And, people want to act like he was still good.

            He was "fine" Until 2003 after that he lost it. After the Shane he was not a real fighter anymore.

            God you're dumb...

            The man after the Shane fight became a full time promoter and a part time fighter.

            He was not "fine" after 2003 man stop overrating this ****er.
            He was fine until the Forbes fight, when he lost all that weight and took punishment for the first time in his career - showing severe bruising and a broken face. This is why Roach baited him into fight Pacquiao.

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              #46
              Crystal ball says:



              Cotto prob loses a close fight......

              or Cotto wins a close fight.....and still loses cause the judges who scored the ODLH vs PBF fight are the ones scoring ringside.

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                #47
                Im lost when has Cotto fought at 154? I dont even think he beats Foreman let alone Oscar.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Smooth Criminal
                  It's easy for idiots such as jrosales to see Oscar getting beatup by a one-dimensional puncher such as Pacquiao, but they forget he was drained of all his strength and anyone could have beat him up. (Roach said this after the fight) Valero was beating the crap out of him in sparring.

                  People forget how strong Oscar was in his prime and at 154.
                  This wasn't prime, and Oscar wasn't that strong. He had his pad up to his neck against Vargas. The other good fighters he fought were WW's. He used speed and boxing intelligence to win fights. His left hook was strong yeah...

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by -Antonio-
                    This wasn't prime, and Oscar wasn't that strong. He had his pad up to his neck against Vargas. The other good fighters he fought were WW's. He used speed and boxing intelligence to win fights. His left hook was strong yeah...
                    I wasn't implying Oscar was prime at 154. I meant, he was prime at 147 and strong at 154 due to his size advantage he had over WW's. Cotto would look small and weak against Oscar at 154. Possibly stopped if Oscar let his hands go.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by No Ceilings
                      Im lost when has Cotto fought at 154? I dont even think he beats Foreman let alone Oscar.

                      If you are a gamling man i'd take the odds on Foreman. He has good movement and can box.....i expect him to give Cotto very big problems.....and i also suspect Arum is hoping Foreman takes this one.

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