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  • #31
    Good read. You auditioning for BS? You could make the cut.

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    • #32
      I never understood Floyds jibes about him not be as well respected was due to the colour of his skin, I think its stems from when he fought Hatton, and was envious of the support he got.

      But when you look at America over the last 15 years or so, the biggest and most respected sportstars have been black. Jordan and Woods (well was) to name a few.

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      • #33
        Props Cuahutemoc.


        Originally posted by ghost deini View Post
        but he is always very sporting after the fight even with guys that bad mouthed him like corrales
        This is something I just recently noticed after the Mosley fight. After he wins, he talks more respectfully about his opponent it seems.

        Anyways, never really liked Floyd but you can't deny his greatness. There's times when I wish he would go all out (not be so defensive) because you get the feeling he would still win and make things more exciting.

        As far as trash talking goes, my take is he needs to step his game way up. He did have some zingers against Shane, but for the most part it's on some 2nd grade level taunting (maybe even kindergarten). Instead of being a clever bad guy, he seems like a spoiled child sometimes. "The Big Boy Mansion"? Jesus...

        Also, I wish he never specifically said he was greater than Ali, Robinson, Leonard. Those guys went all out in the ring. Respect them.

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        • #34
          Here's how I see it.
          The "money" persona makes Floyd work as hard as he does. He knows he can't talk **** and then lose. He'd never ever....EVER hear the end of it.

          Boxing fans need to see past the marketing side of Floyd. None of what he says on 24/7 impresses me. It's great for Casual boxing fans and new fans, not for true fairweather fans of the sport.

          Floyd realized what was best for business, and that's playing the villain. Remember the hey days of the WWE, when Vince McMahon became THE most hated person on the planet? He screwed people over again and again. It's a rewarding business tactic in terms of profit and marketing. Vince sold MILLIONS of PPV's, and Floyd and his camp saw this. It's a no brainer.

          Floyd is NOT "money" off camera. He's probably a charitable, respectful, friendly, and humble young black man. But people don't wanna see that. The media can't wait to break him like Tiger, like MJ, like Tyson, and the list goes on.

          So what does he do? He takes that power away from the media and into his own marketing campaign. He then becomes the hardest workin athlete in all of boxing and laughs his way to the bank.

          Lighten up on "money", it's an act guys. Floyd Mayweather Jr. respects boxing and his opponents. The proof is in how meticulously and tirelessly he trains for EVERY fight, whether it's a lighter opponent in JMM, or a p4p welter like Shane. NOTHING changes from opponent to opponent. That's respect.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by SkillspayBills View Post
            Good read. You auditioning for BS? You could make the cut.
            I didn't even know there was a spot open..lol. I write a lot, got that from spending time alone, I just wanted to come with a different perspective as far as someone who doesn't necessarily like Floyd the man but can see through the nonsense and respect Floyd the fighter.

            Originally posted by NesNY View Post
            Here's how I see it.
            The "money" persona makes Floyd work as hard as he does. He knows he can't talk **** and then lose. He'd never ever....EVER hear the end of it.

            Boxing fans need to see past the marketing side of Floyd. None of what he says on 24/7 impresses me. It's great for Casual boxing fans and new fans, not for true fairweather fans of the sport.

            Floyd realized what was best for business, and that's playing the villain. Remember the hey days of the WWE, when Vince McMahon became THE most hated person on the planet? He screwed people over again and again. It's a rewarding business tactic in terms of profit and marketing. Vince sold MILLIONS of PPV's, and Floyd and his camp saw this. It's a no brainer.

            Floyd is NOT "money" off camera. He's probably a charitable, respectful, friendly, and humble young black man. But people don't wanna see that. The media can't wait to break him like Tiger, like MJ, like Tyson, and the list goes on.

            So what does he do? He takes that power away from the media and into his own marketing campaign. He then becomes the hardest workin athlete in all of boxing and laughs his way to the bank.

            Lighten up on "money", it's an act guys. Floyd Mayweather Jr. respects boxing and his opponents. The proof is in how meticulously and tirelessly he trains for EVERY fight, whether it's a lighter opponent in JMM, or a p4p welter like Shane. NOTHING changes from opponent to opponent. That's respect.
            I have to disagree, first off boxing isn't the WWE where you need a gimmick in order to sell a fight. If the talent is there and the match up is right people will want to see it. DLH was always the "good guy" but he didn't have to market his opponent as the "bad guy" in order to sell fights.

            Trinidad was FAR from the bad guy and that was one of the biggest fights of the last 20 or so years. It was because both fighters were great, that's what sold the fight.

            With Floyd, as I pointed out in the piece, he is someone who came at an odd time in boxing. I once heard Bert Sugar say, "It's your competition that makes you great". He's 100% right, I mean what kind of legacy would Leonard have if he never had Duran, Hagler or Hearns? Same with Ali and Frazier, Spinks and Foreman.

            I know Floyd isn't this guy 100% of the time but you can't deny the things he says to his daughters on 24/7 where he tells them life is all about money, something I would never tell my own children.

            I know some is an act and some is true, like I said before though, perception is sometimes stronger than the truth and that's the ugly truth in life.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496 View Post

              I know Floyd isn't this guy 100% of the time but you can't deny the things he says to his daughters on 24/7 where he tells them life is all about money, something I would never tell my own children.
              i remember him sayin that he didn't want his kids to work for anyone i don't remember him sayin life is all about money though

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              • #37
                excellent read!!

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496 View Post
                  The truth about Floyd Mayweather Jr.
                  by Cuahutemoc1496


                  First off I want to say Floyd is an incredible fighter, his speed and skill IMO is unmatched in the world of boxing right now. It's a hard pill for some to swallow because most people cannot separate their personal feelings with objectivity.

                  Mosley was not an easy fight, I don't care if he is 38 years old. Is he the Mosley in his prime? No, but he is still a very capable fighter and it showed when he had Floyd in trouble in the second round. The thing with Floyd is that it takes him all of a round to figure you out, catch your rhythm and start picking you apart. He did this with surprising ease and showed why he has never lost a fight.

                  The problems I do have with Floyd is that he has hand picked opponents in the past, some call it smart, others call it cowardly. Personally, I think Floyd actually got lucky with the draw. He came when Oscar, Mosley, Trinidad and all those great fighters at 147 were way past their prime but honestly, I can't blame Floyd for that. Some say he ran from a prime Margarito when he was a terror in the welter weight division, but let's be honest people, would Margarito be nothing more than a punching bag for him? I mean Mosley made him look slow and lethargic, what do you think Floyd would have done for 12 rounds?

                  I don't like Floyd the man, his mouth is a turn off for me. Floyd the fighter on the other hand is a naturally gifted fighter that is incredible to watch for the boxing purist like myself. I don't care to see a bad man contest and two unskilled drunks beat on each other into a bloody mess, I want to see two masters of the sport battle it out and Floyd honestly made it look easy.

                  Floyd once said the reason he isn't the biggest sports star in America is because he is black. We all know that is a absurd comment, the truth is, Floyd has crossed the boundary from ****y and charismatic, to obnoxious and annoying. If Floyd allowed himself to be more humble he would be more liked. That's just not Floyd though, maybe it's his ****iness that gives him that strength, that confidence that makes him great in the ring.

                  All I know is that I don't see anyone beating Floyd, not even Pacquaio. Pacquaio is an all time great in his own right but as the saying goes, a great big man always beats a great small man and I just think that when those two come face to face in the ring, Floyd natural size and strength advantage will be apparent. That's not to say Pacquiao doesn't have a chance, every fighter has a chance as we saw how close Mosley was to ending the fight in the second but with the safe style that Floyd implores, it would be very difficult for Pacquaio to turn this into a brawl or get close enough to make enough exchanges to KO Floyd.

                  I can't say Floyd is the greatest of all time because that's another argument for another day. I can say that if he keeps winning in dominant fashion like this, he is making a hell of a case for it though....
                  Until he beats Pac and then a few other challenges when he is slightly past his prime then he is no where near ATG. ATG is how you box when you are pass your prime as well. Great boxers can achieve things when they are old and we dont know how well PBF could do.
                  Im not letting personal feelings get in the way of objectivity.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
                    Until he beats Pac and then a few other challenges when he is slightly past his prime then he is no where near ATG. ATG is how you box when you are pass your prime as well. Great boxers can achieve things when they are old and we dont know how well PBF could do.
                    Im not letting personal feelings get in the way of objectivity.
                    Its not ****y when you back it up. When Ali was the biggest mouth in the sport he was loved. So why do people hate Mayweather?

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                    • #40
                      Excellent read. I couldn't agree with you more.

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