Reason Why Floyd CAN Go Down as GOAT or Top 5

[THE REED]

Cotto has a loss to Marg didnt hurt Pac.

Shane has 5 losses didnt hurt Floyd.

You dont have to undefeated to be a good fighter and a good test. Look at Pac he took some L's too. Hopkins took L's.

Williams beat Margarito when he was the Number 1 WW.

He beat Martinez as well the Number 1 JMW and newly P4Pounder. Its not just who Paul beat its about what he brings to the table.

A giant who is an insane match up nightmare for Pacquiao and a guy who himself is a Top 5 P4Pounder. Even Top 3 on most lists.

Williams isnt ranked that high for nothing. Anyone who thinks if Pac beats him thats it not a great when is kidding themselves. Also he has a 8 inch height advantage and an 18 inch reach advantage. Pac should lose this fight easily. If he wins its GREAT.

I will reply to this in a min.. my girl just got here.


And Jro. . havent really thoguht about running my own show.

[DiegoFuego]

I agree 100%. When I said Top 25-30 I meant greatness wise.

But skill wise. Nope. Ther isnt a fighter better then him. He doesnt exist.

if greatness is Sugar Ray Leonard losing to Roberto Duran because he fought Duran's fight in Montreal, then I bet Floyd is damn glad he doesn't have "greatness" or he probably would have lost a fight by now.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

I own his career set. I challenge people to actually just simply watch this man fight. Thats all. Turn the sound off sit back and watch him fight. Floyd is from another planet. One day yall will realize that.

[Cash Cow]

Here are all the top 10 ranked opponents Robinson defeated:

Joe Ghnouly
Pete Lello
Maxie Shapiro
Maxie Berger
Norman Rubio (x2)
Tony Motisi
Reuben Shank
Izzy Jannazzo (x4)
Ralph Zannelli
Sheik Rangel
Tommy Bell (x2)
George Costner (x2)
Jose Basora (x2)
Jimmy McDaniels
California Jackie Wilson (x2)
Cecil Hudson (x2)
Georgie Abrams
Jimmy Doyle
Bernard Docusen
Vic Dellicurti
Steve Belloise
Aaron Wade
Ray Barnes
Robert Villemain (x2)
Charley Fusari
Bobby Dykes
Holly Mims
Artie Levine
Cyrille Delanoit
Rocky Castellani
Denny Moyer
Hans Stretz
Ralph Dupas

Hall of famers:

Sammy Angott (x3)
Fritzie Zivic (x2)
Jake LaMotta (x5)
Henry Armstrong
Kid Gavilan (x2)
Carl Olson (x4)
Randolph Turpin
Rocky Graziano
Gene Fullmer
Carmen Basilio

It will be impossible for anybody to rank ahead of this man. IMPOSSIBLE... Who is going to have a resume like this? WHO?

style wise, Mayweather > Robinson

more accurate, better defense

people need to start looking at STYLES...not just NAMES on resume...Mayweather has beat all of the best guys of this era

[Boxin']

I knew you would say this. I was prepared. What if Robinson fought today? We all know he loved money probably just as much as Floyd did. Wouldnt he take his time let fights build up go on the tours, do the press conferences etc..Its a different day and era. Robinson would not have all those fights in todays age.

Robinson would probably retire in his prime and then come back when the IRS were knocking on his door too

[jrosales13]

I knew you would say this. I was prepared. What if Robinson fought today? We all know he loved money probably just as much as Floyd did. Wouldnt he take his time let fights build up go on the tours, do the press conferences etc..Its a different day and era. Robinson would not have all those fights in todays age.

But, that was not the point of my post. Would SRR body have broken down? Would SRR had to take time off to let his body heel? Would SRR have hand problems?

[DiegoFuego]

I own his career set. I challenge people to actually just simply watch this man fight. Thats all. Turn the sound off sit back and watch him fight. Floyd is from another planet. One day yall will realize that.

He works just as hard as anybody in this sport ever has. The training methods are better now than they were then, but I don't think it would matter. Floyd takes his craft seriously. He doesn't drink. He doesn't smoke. He's a gym rat. I don't understand why no one wants to credit him for that.

Can you imagine what the world would be like if everyone gave that kind of dedication to their work?

People should get what they put into things. No one puts more into boxing than Mayweather. Yes, he has good genes. Yes, his reflexes are incredible. But he doesn't rely on either of them alone. He works his ****ing ass off.

[jrosales13]

style wise, Mayweather > Robinson

more accurate, better defense

people need to start looking at STYLES...not just NAMES on resume...Mayweather has beat all of the best guys of this era

What makes you say that?

[Southpaw Stinger]

This thread fresh from the Twilight Zone?

[Slick_Rick]

You're selling him short. He's not just top 25 of all time. I'm willing to bet very few posters on this site have seen a better fighter in their lifetime. The only ones you could argue were better in the last 30 years include Leonard, Hagler and Hearns. Don't give me that Duran nonsense. He lost all of his biggest fights as he tried to go up in weight, some by big blowouts.

Pernell Whitaker was not better than Floyd Mayweather. Mayweather's defense is just as good (how many times did Pernell get dropped?), and Mayweather's offense is better.

He's better than all of the heavyweights of the last 30 years, including Holmes, Lewis and Holyfield.

He's better than B-Hop (who even said so himself).

He's better than Roy Jones Jr. I don't care how much talent you want to talk about, Jones is not better than Floyd Mayweather because he never proved it in the ring.

I'd be happy to debate any of this with anybody. I happen to put Floyd above Hagler and Hearns. I'm pretty sure I put him above Leonard as well.

You can probably count on your fingers the number of fighters better than Floyd all time.

But don't start counting toes because you're kidding yourself.

W.T.F are you talking about? He beat a prime SRL and took his "0".

The rest of your post is to ******ed to even comprehend.