Reason Why Floyd CAN Go Down as GOAT or Top 5

[Slick_Rick]

Leonard I - W
Leonard II - L
Benitez - L
Hagler - L
Hearns - L

First off you need to understand the definition of "all".

A win over a prime SRL is worth 5 of Floyds best wins. Not to mention him being widely considered the greatest lightweight ever, as well his wins over Moore and Barkley. The guy IS a top 10 ATG, to even compare Floyd to him is a crime.

[$Bullsfam$]

If he's beats Pacman. He'll no doubt be a top 20 ATG at the LEAST. I'd have him top 10 in the later portion. People don't give either of them enough respect because their is so much hate. Forget his personality, just look at the stats.

But damn straight, if he beats Martinez at 160 he's the greatest of all time. That's just too much. That's straight amazing. It's the same way for Pac too, if he beats Floyd, then Martinez or Williams at 154, maybe even Cotto rematch at 154, then Martinez at 160, he would be the greatest of all time.

Both are extremely talented fighters. Definitely crack the top 30 atg fighters right now IMO.

[Joeyzagz]

Here are all the top 10 ranked opponents Robinson defeated:

Joe Ghnouly
Pete Lello
Maxie Shapiro
Maxie Berger
Norman Rubio (x2)
Tony Motisi
Reuben Shank
Izzy Jannazzo (x4)
Ralph Zannelli
Sheik Rangel
Tommy Bell (x2)
George Costner (x2)
Jose Basora (x2)
Jimmy McDaniels
California Jackie Wilson (x2)
Cecil Hudson (x2)
Georgie Abrams
Jimmy Doyle
Bernard Docusen
Vic Dellicurti
Steve Belloise
Aaron Wade
Ray Barnes
Robert Villemain (x2)
Charley Fusari
Bobby Dykes
Holly Mims
Artie Levine
Cyrille Delanoit
Rocky Castellani
Denny Moyer
Hans Stretz
Ralph Dupas

Hall of famers:

Sammy Angott (x3)
Fritzie Zivic (x2)
Jake LaMotta (x5)
Henry Armstrong
Kid Gavilan (x2)
Carl Olson (x4)
Randolph Turpin
Rocky Graziano
Gene Fullmer
Carmen Basilio

It will be impossible for anybody to rank ahead of this man. IMPOSSIBLE... Who is going to have a resume like this? WHO?

Willie Pep was 62-0 at one point but he never had a win over a dynamite-prime-fighter during that span. Did Pep ever defeat a "fighter of the decade" in his career?

If Floyd gets a win over our "fighter of the decade" who is younger and still in his prime, then Floyd leap-frogs a lot of people on that top 50 list. He will have a perfect record, with a dynamite name to go with it.

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[NChristo]

no one else on the ATG list including Sugar Ray Robinson has faced and beaten an opponent also ranked in the top ATG list.

Ray Robinson - Henry Armstrong

Sam Langford - Joe Gans

SRL - Duran x2 (Leonards not in my list but he's in alot of peoples)

=P

[MonsieurGeorges]

I don't know where I would rank Floyd right now on an ATG list but I think he deserves to be one of the highest ranked fighters from the 90s until today, if not the highest

[trk]

Not to mention both are also 5 and 6 division champs just like the Fab 4 guys, Duran was a 6 division champ, SRL was 5, and Hearns also was 6 if you count minor titles I believe.

Minor titles don't count. Duran was a 4 division champion, Hearns was a 5 division champion, and SRL was a 5 division champion but it really should have been 4 (how can you win a Light Heavyweight title in a bout fought at Super Middleweight?).

Also, it isn't like they cleaned out all those divisions. Duran dominated 135 for an extended period of time, but he only won exactly one title fight in each of the other 3 divisions and had a bunch of losses trying to get those titles. Total record in title fights: 16-7, but only 3-7 after moving up from lightweight. SRL only won 1 title fight at LMW, 1 title fight at MW, and never actually fought at LHW. SRL total record in title fights: 10-3-1. In his whole career SRL only beat 6 opponents (Benitez, Duran, Kalule, Hearns, Haggler, Lalonde) who were good enough to win a title (Floyd has beaten 15 so far, Pacquiao has beaten 12). Hearns won a vacant title at MW and lost it in his fist defense, won a vacant SMW title and only defended it twice, and only won 2 title fights at LHW. Hearns total record in title fights: 14-4-1. Mayweather is at 19-0 in title fights and Pacquiao is at 13-1-2 while also becoming the only 7 division champion in history. I don't think the accomplishments of Mayweather and Pacquiao are in any way inferior to the accomplishments of the Fab 4 fighters.

[trk]

Ray Robinson - Henry Armstrong

Sam Langford - Joe Gans

SRL - Duran x2 (Leonards not in my list but he's in alot of peoples)

=P

You can't really give Robinson credit for Armstrong though, since he was a shot fighter by then and not a real contender.

[jrosales13]

You can't really give Robinson credit for Armstrong though, since he was a shot fighter by then and not a real contender.

He was the #1 contender?

[trk]

He was the #1 contender?

Was he? SRR-Armstrong was more than 2 1/2 years after Armstrong's last title fight.