give me the honest truth about rocky marciano

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  • SkillspayBills
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    #61
    Marciano is an ATG. He is underrated by some and overrated by others. It's not his fault he hit his peak when some of theother ATG's were up there in age. Even with that "he fought old ATG's" argument it is MUCH more nuanced than that.
    Last edited by SkillspayBills; 05-03-2010, 07:11 PM.

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    • Calilloyd
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      #62
      Originally posted by Tunney!
      Conn had his first three fights at 135, 47 fights at or below 162, and only 21 at light heavyweight.

      He had more fights at middleweight than light heavyweight.

      He wasn't a big man, he moved up to heavier weights for better paydays.

      He fought only twice after the second fight with Louis then retired, being shot and old by age 30 from fighting bigger men.

      Of course, you don't respect Conn.

      Because you're a racist bastard.





      It's funny how you make these statements with nothing to back it up. I mean truly funny It psychotic, really. Conn is one of the best light heavy's in history. And Marciano is an all time great heavyweight. Show me where I've ever said anything different? Time for you to increase your med's for this paranoia of yours lol

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      • Calilloyd
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        #63
        Originally posted by Tunney!
        Conn had his first three fights at 135, 47 fights at or below 162, and only 21 at light heavyweight.
        Originally posted by Tunney!

        He had more fights at middleweight than light heavyweight.

        He wasn't a big man, he moved up to heavier weights for better paydays.

        He fought only twice after the second fight with Louis then retired, being shot and old by age 30 from fighting bigger men.



        The majority of Shane Mosley's fights were at lightweight. Is he still a lightweight? Most of Ezzard Charles fights were at middleweight and light heavyweight. Your logic is very ******.

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        • Joeyzagz
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          #64
          Originally posted by trk
          I would rank Marciano as the 3rd greatest HW all time behind Louis and Ali, and the best unbeaten fighter except for Mayweather.
          I agree with EVERYTHING you said. I never got why undefeated fighters recieved the rap for being soft.

          Calzaghe did it while beating Hall of Famers

          Mayweather did it while moving up in weight.

          Marciano did it while knocking guys out

          Even if these guys had one loss they'd still be Hall of Famers. You dont have to be knocked on your ass just to be considered an ATG.

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          • gratz_the_king
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            #65
            did marciano have a chin?

            and was his power as good as his record suggests?

            i cant think of another heavy weight in history with a more impressive record...come to think of it, its even hard to think of ANY record in history thats more impressive ...on paper atleast...

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            • trk
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              #66
              Originally posted by gratz_the_king
              did marciano have a chin?

              and was his power as good as his record suggests?

              i cant think of another heavy weight in history with a more impressive record...come to think of it, its even hard to think of ANY record in history thats more impressive ...on paper atleast...
              Marciano had a very good chin, he was only knocked down twice in his career which is pretty impressive for a smallish heavyweight that is easy to hit.

              He definitely had power, which allowed him to continue knocking out most of his opponents even after he finally stepped up and started fighting the top heavyweights.

              It's not like he was unbeatable though. He could be outboxed. Roland LaStarza lost a somewhat controversial split decision against him and in his first title match against the 38-year-old Joe Walcott Marciano was well behind on the scorecards until he get the KO in the 13th round.

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