give me the honest truth about rocky marciano

[TheGreatA]

You always attack when I'm already fighting someone else, you cowardly scumbag. Then it's not a fair fight.

Ease up on the completely unnecessary insults. A discussion on the internet is not a fight.

For his first fight he was 135 pounds. He had three fights at lightweight.

Conn, who never had an amateur career, was 16 years old then. Pacquiao used to be a strawweight. Your point?

His next 44 fights he was between 137.5 and 162 pounds, in other words light welterweight to middleweight.

Between ages 16 and 20. Chris Byrd at 20 years of age fought at 140 pounds.

His next 21 he was between 162 but under 175.

So a light heavyweight then.

So most of his career fights were at light welterweight to middleweight.

The prime of his career, from 21 years of age to 30, was spent at light heavyweight and occasionally at heavyweight. He beat several top ranked heavyweights, such as Bob Pastor, Lee Savold, Gus Dorazio and Finland's greatest ever fighter Gunnar Bärlund. Most rate Billy Conn a top 15 ATG light heavyweight.

In 1946, he was not quite age 30 but completely shot from fighting bigger men when he fought Louis, and in fact had only two more fights after that before retiring.

This was the second fight, Conn was 28 years old, Louis was 32. In case you didn't know, they had a fight 5 years previously, when Conn was 23 years of age and at his absolute peak as a fighter.

[PH|L]

top20 ATG IMO

[Holtol]

I think Archie Moore was a good fighter when Marciano fought him. Going into the fight Moore had won 21 straight after loosing to Marciano He won 11 straight before he lost to Floyd Patterson.

Even Joe Louis was on a 8 fight win streak going into the fight. And had gone 15 rounds with Ezzard Charles 1 year before he fought Marciano.

[Rosseboi]

He was a joke.

Are you joking or being an idiot? Seriously? I don't normally get agressive but Rocky was a natural 185lb'r; that's 30 lb less than Ali when he fought Frazier and a good 40/50 lb less than a Klit / Lewis.

Give the man some bloody credit please. I just gt the impression you're biased buddy.

[The Hammer]

This was the second fight, Conn was 28 years old, Louis was 32. In case you didn't know, they had a fight 5 years previously, when Conn was 23 years of age and at his absolute peak as a fighter.

You don't mention that Louis was at his peak at that time. You always have that same subtle bias.

Conn weighed in at light heavyweight for the first fight at 174, Louis was more than 25 pounds heavier at about 200. Despite a considerable height and reach disadvantage, Conn was ahead on 2 of 3 cards after 12 rounds.

[TheGreatA]

You don't mention that Louis was at his peak at that time. You always have that same subtle bias.

Conn weighed in at light heavyweight for the first fight at 174, Louis was more than 25 pounds heavier at about 200. Despite a considerable height and reach disadvantage, Conn was ahead on 2 of 3 cards after 12 rounds.

Peak at what time? The second fight? Louis looked rusty and was never the same after the Second World War, neither was Conn. Obviously he was in his prime during their first fight as was Billy Conn, a fact I never denied, you did. All I disagreed with was you calling Conn an old middleweight at the time he faced Louis.

[F l i c k e r]

Why? Please explain.



Marciano is a Top 5 Heavyweight and the greatest Cruiserweight of all time.

Frustrating Defense
Devastating Power
Incredible Stamina

His resume' is solid, and at 49-0 its hard to find someone with a better career

^^^^^ This....


If it wasn't for Marciano, I wouldn't be into boxing right now.

[Calilloyd]

You don't mention that Louis was at his peak at that time. You always have that same subtle bias.

Conn weighed in at light heavyweight for the first fight at 174, Louis was more than 25 pounds heavier at about 200. Despite a considerable height and reach disadvantage, Conn was ahead on 2 of 3 cards after 12 rounds.

I thought you said he was an old middleweight for that fight? Looks like you were wrong. Again

[The Hammer]

I thought you said he was an old middleweight for that fight? Looks like you were wrong. Again

Conn had his first three fights at 135, 47 fights at or below 162, and only 21 at light heavyweight.

He had more fights at middleweight than light heavyweight.

He wasn't a big man, he moved up to heavier weights for better paydays.

He fought only twice after the second fight with Louis then retired, being shot and old by age 30 from fighting bigger men.

Of course, you don't respect Conn.

Because you're a racist bastard.

[trk]

I would rank Marciano as the 3rd greatest HW all time behind Louis and Ali, and the best unbeaten fighter except for Mayweather.