Grus my man I gotta say we're on the same page here. Gotta love Pac as a fighter especially @130 but all this BS is crazy. They play themselves completely and have given away their only leverage in any negotiation with Floyd. It's gone! Floyd is the man and after Shane even the biggest hater has to concede.
Comments Thread For: Mayweather Jr: "Pacquiao Better Step His PPV Game Up"
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Grus my man I gotta say we're on the same page here. Gotta love Pac as a fighter especially @130 but all this BS is crazy. They play themselves completely and have given away their only leverage in any negotiation with Floyd. It's gone! Floyd is the man and after Shane even the biggest hater has to concede. -
Nice try rookie....Floyd took this fight because he couldn't make money anywhere else.MONEY IS A DLH CREATION!He's a GOLDEN BOY FIGHTER, Oscar, Shane, and Berard are his bosses.Before Oscar, he wasn't making ****!Lower weght classes will do about 400,000 PPV if it's a really big fight.Oscar sold the show against Mayweather, Hatton had all the fans, Money fought Marquez on Mexican idepenence day, Mexicans bought that fight!WHy?Because that they do on Mexican independence day!Floyd did't want to fight Shane because he didn't do goo PPV, then he wouldn't fight many because he said he'd been knocked out twice.So he wants to fight someone who's undefeated and sells lots of PPV.There isn't a fighter like that out there.Who's going to make Money money if he doesn't fight PAC?Floyd doesn't have a big fan base.
If your logic is correct then Shane and Bernard are also DLH creations and should be doing huge numbers as well... right? I mean Shane is an exciting fighter (more so than Floyd.... right?). Shane has agreed to take on all the guys Mayweather wouldn't ( Berto, Cotto, Margarito, ect....)... right?
So why isn't he the ppv king? Why isnt he making the kind of money that Mayweather is making? You have no answer..... so I will help you.
Mayweather is a self made man! Oscar gave the same chance to Hopkins and Shane (twice!) and neither of them were able to take advantage of the opportunity....... Floyd did! And now everyone wonders why this defensive minded figher who people love to hate is the highest paid fighter in the sport.
Floyd has no fan base?...... so weak...Comment
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Well put!!!!!!!!i agree with the fact that pac missed his opportunity... bad management IMO. but dude, youre a little high on floyd.... floyd inherited p4p from b-hop in 04-05.... just like manny inheriting p4p from floyd. difference is pac was knocking dudes out. PERIOD. you can spin it any way you like in favor of floyd.... i honestly dont give a sh**. LOL. whether YOU or I agree with it, manny has been getting all the boxing accolades... boxing historians, writers, & experts voted for that.... leave it at that. dont act like they just decided to give accolades to some chump.
as it stands, if floyd beats shane... he DESERVES 60/40 & USADA testing.
if manny doesnt accept the terms, then HE will be heavily CRITICIZED.Comment
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Oscar was in charge of promotions for the Mayweather fight and HBO 24/7 was an idea that Ross Greenburg, head of HBO sports came up with as tool for promotion.
Oscar was consistently putting up big numbers, whether or not Mayweather contributed to the PPV totals when he fought Oscar is immaterial, as I've stated Oscar had consistently put up numbers for 10 years. I have a better question for you, what were the PPV numbers for May/Baldomir or Judah? When you're done answering that question, you'll realize all roads lead back to ODLH.Last edited by switchsouthpaw; 04-29-2010, 01:49 PM.Comment
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why would roach/pac sign with shane if the FIGHT was suppose to be with floyd??? bottom line, shane wanted BOTH floyd & manny.... BOTH didnt want any part of shane... floyd claimed shane wasnt a big enough draw & 5 losses... according to you & others, roach avoided shane... THATS WHY SHANE FOUGHT BERTO. dude, you bring up how shane went to roach but you dont even mention what floyd was doing. LOL.
i never once denied floyd PPV numbers, but since when did pac/cotto do LESS than floyd/jmm???? from my memory, pac/cotto surpassed floyd/jmm in PPV numbers. check your stats kid.
dont also forget, cotto's PPV draw was taking a hit after a margarito loss and a close clottey win.... undefeated cotto unquestionable had more draw than current cotto... shane is coming off of one of his biggest victories.
sounds like you seem to be a bit skewed....
be a good sport? LOL. im a boxing fan.... i could care less what floyd & pac do.... i just want to see GOOD fights. to be honest, all the BS from the floyd/manny fallout turned me off to BOTH fighters. i am critical to both die-hard floyd & pac fans.... frankly, i dont like blind nut-hugging. LOL.
the only fighter that DESERVES respect is mosley... that man was yearning for a fight. F**K the money, pride, ego, trash-talk... the man just cares about fighting. win or lose, mosley is THE MAN...
Wow are you another one of those dudes that just started watching boxing on youtube? And if you are your not even good at that cause if you were you would know that Floyd has been calling out Shane since they were at 130/135 all the way up to Dentalgate. The good fights that you wanna see consist of good business first my dude and if you have a good job doing good numbers you should know this.
Pac/Cotto BARELY surpassed May/Marquez now you do the math and tell me how that happened? Cotto will sell out Yankee stadium now tell me why Pac/Cotto didn't even do 1.5 PPVs? Now tell me what you think May/Cotto would've done? I don't know you but I do feel sorry for anyone being lead by you in a business sense cause damn my dude you think like a factory worker and I aint even talking about the forklift driver. Mosley deserves respect but not more than Floyd in this situation cause Mosley should have faced Floyd a long time ago not when he had no choice.Comment
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Nice try rookie....
If your logic is correct then Shane and Bernard are also DLH creations and should be doing huge numbers as well... right? I mean Shane is an exciting fighter (more so than Floyd.... right?). Shane has agreed to take on all the guys Mayweather wouldn't ( Berto, Cotto, Margarito, ect....)... right?
So why isn't he the ppv king? Why isnt he making the kind of money that Mayweather is making? You have no answer..... so I will help you.
Mayweather is a self made man! Oscar gave the same chance to Hopkins and Shane (twice!) and neither of them were able to take advantage of the opportunity....... Floyd did! And now everyone wonders why this defensive minded figher who people love to hate is the highest paid fighter in the sport.
Floyd has no fan base?...... so weak...
Way to break it down my dude. :-)Comment
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PfB vs Clottey would only sell about 300-500 PPV and not fill the new Dallas stadium..
Pac vs Mosley would have sold out MGM grand in the first week and do more then Pac vs Cotto..
So how in the fuc can you PFB ask for more then 50/50
Floyd just ducking Pac again..Comment
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