Comments Thread For: Mayweather-Pacquiao: Roach Has a Drug Testing Solution

[IMDAZED]

Here is a prime example...you stated that on numerous occasions that Pac had bucked the Nevada commission and their testing procedures, I along with many other posts asked you to support that comment with facts and instead you spoke in circles never once providing anything factual to support your claims, all you've managed to accomplish in this thread is a lot of "emoting", but you lack actual facts to support any of your claims.

Yes, I did. And I pointed out how Pacquiao ignored NSAC rules for weight infractions against Morales, Cotto, and attempted to do the same against Mayweather.

Anything else?

[Vasyl’s dad]

It was Pac himself who said he would allow up until 1-3 days to be tested, why the change all of a sudden?

It was Floyd himself who said,

"Manny Pacquiao, easy work, easy fight, probably easier than the Marquez fight".

Why the change all of a sudden?


I'm pretty sure this is why.

[bdevils]

How long has floyd been at welterweight?
How long has Manny been at welterweight?

Floyd should have already had a fight with Shane, years ago. But, since you don't remember, I'll enlighten you.

"I don't fight sparring partners"
"He has 5 losses"
"he does steroids"



If there is someone to blame, its Floyd. He fought an entire career just fine going by the standards of the NSAC.

Suddenly, the system is broke, even though he just used it last September.


This whole testing issue is just an excuse like the other excuses he made for other fights.

Since you don't remember I'll enlighten you,

"I have a toothache"
"I'm going on vacation"

It's pointless arguing with a simple minded fella like you. No matter wut it's Floyd's fault with you.

Did you ever consider that he actually thinks Pac might be on something?

[Bhopreign]

It was Floyd himself who said,

"Manny Pacquiao, easy work, easy fight, probably easier than the Marquez fight".

Why the change all of a sudden?


I'm pretty sure this is why.

You still didnt answer the question.

[flour]

more knowledge from Don M. Catlin M.D

the leading research, discoverer of the clear, founder and director of UCLA anti-doping lab etc.. regarded as the premierer expert on PEDS..


MORE INFO ON THIS GUY AND WHO HE IS

"Don H. Catlin, M.D. (born 1938) is a well-known anti-doping scientist and considered one of the founders of modern drug-testing in sport. "Some call Dr. Don Catlin... the father of drug testing in sports." (New York Times, Sept. 18, 2007.)[1][2][3][4]"

source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Catlin

"Don Catlin, widely considered the most respected chemist in the sports anti-doping community..."


source:http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...031200804.html


here is what he thinks of blood test and why they are actually use... its all about being frugal... not because its better than urine

Question:
If the blood test doesn't have to be performed, then why does it exist? Not only do you say it is unnecessary, but it seems quite invasive and expensive to test athletes' blood when a simple urine test could be done.

Believe it or not, the blood EPO test is much cheaper than the urine EPO test. The blood test costs somewhere in the ballpark of $60, whereas the urine test costs approximately $400 per test. The reason for this is that conducting the urine EPO test takes up a lot of the time of the technicians in the lab (sometimes up to two or three days) . Thus, the blood urine test can be used in situations to save money.

If would be very expensive to conduct a urine EPO tests on all athletes at $400 a pop. Thus the blood EPO test can be used to determine which athletes are most likely to be on EPO, and then the urine EPO test can be administered on this smaller sub sample.

For example purposes only, assume there are 100 athletes and only 1 has used EPO. It would cost $40,000 ($400 *100=$40,000) to test all of them for EPO using the urine EPO test. Instead if the blood test can be used on all the athletes to determine which 10 athletes are most likely to be EPO users, then the expensive urine test can be administered on the 10 suspect athletes and a lot of money can be saved. Combining the blood and the urine test only costs $10,000 ($60*100= $6,000 for the blood test on all the athletes and then 10 * $400= $4000 for the urine test on the 10 suspect athletes).Thus in this hypothetical example, using both the blood and urine test together would save approximately $30,000 as the blood and urine test combination costs only $10,000 versus the $40,000 it would cost to do the urine test on all the athletes."


source:http://www.letsrun.com/2003/epoqa.php


well well IMDAZE THE ***** IS GETTING EXPOSED ON HIS BLOOD TESTING CRUSADE, what a ***** LMAO

[IMDAZED]

more knowledge from Don M. Catlin M.D

the leading research, discoverer of the clear, founder and director of UCLA anti-doping lab etc.. regarded as the premierer expert on PEDS..


MORE INFO ON THIS GUY AND WHO HE IS

"Don H. Catlin, M.D. (born 1938) is a well-known anti-doping scientist and considered one of the founders of modern drug-testing in sport. "Some call Dr. Don Catlin... the father of drug testing in sports." (New York Times, Sept. 18, 2007.)[1][2][3][4]"

source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Catlin

"Don Catlin, widely considered the most respected chemist in the sports anti-doping community..."


source:http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...031200804.html


here is what he thinks of blood test and why they are actually use... its all about being frugal... not because its better than urine

Question:
If the blood test doesn't have to be performed, then why does it exist? Not only do you say it is unnecessary, but it seems quite invasive and expensive to test athletes' blood when a simple urine test could be done.

Believe it or not, the blood EPO test is much cheaper than the urine EPO test. The blood test costs somewhere in the ballpark of $60, whereas the urine test costs approximately $400 per test. The reason for this is that conducting the urine EPO test takes up a lot of the time of the technicians in the lab (sometimes up to two or three days) . Thus, the blood urine test can be used in situations to save money.

If would be very expensive to conduct a urine EPO tests on all athletes at $400 a pop. Thus the blood EPO test can be used to determine which athletes are most likely to be on EPO, and then the urine EPO test can be administered on this smaller sub sample.

For example purposes only, assume there are 100 athletes and only 1 has used EPO. It would cost $40,000 ($400 *100=$40,000) to test all of them for EPO using the urine EPO test. Instead if the blood test can be used on all the athletes to determine which 10 athletes are most likely to be EPO users, then the expensive urine test can be administered on the 10 suspect athletes and a lot of money can be saved. Combining the blood and the urine test only costs $10,000 ($60*100= $6,000 for the blood test on all the athletes and then 10 * $400= $4000 for the urine test on the 10 suspect athletes).Thus in this hypothetical example, using both the blood and urine test together would save approximately $30,000 as the blood and urine test combination costs only $10,000 versus the $40,000 it would cost to do the urine test on all the athletes."


source:http://www.letsrun.com/2003/epoqa.php


well well IMDAZE THE ***** IS GETTING EXPOSED ON HIS BLOOD TESTING CRUSADE, what a ***** LMAO

Travis Tygert, CEO of the USADA has stated that there are at least four major PEDs that cannot be detected by urine - only through blood. So while you continue your EPO crusade, keep that in mind.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Since you don't remember I'll enlighten you,

"I have a toothache"
"I'm going on vacation"

It's pointless arguing with a simple minded fella like you. No matter wut it's Floyd's fault with you.

Did you ever consider that he actually thinks Pac might be on something?

I've been waiting for this ****** post. I knew it was coming.

So, lets go through this slowly.

Who is the boss at GBP?

[IMDAZED]

I've been waiting for this ****** post. I knew it was coming.

So, lets go through this slowly.

Who is the boss at GBP?

Oscar De La Hoya.

[switchsouthpaw]

I'd be overjoyed.

Good then you will be when Pac goes on record and states that he will accept random testing. You know what will happen at that point? Mayweather will come up with yet another exit strategy, which he is already voicing now through the media, telling Pac to get his PPV numbers up if he wants the fight, in other words he agreed to a 50/50 split but now because he knows his PPV numbers against Mosley will beat the numbers Pac had against Clottey (of course it would because Clottey has the name value of a guy who works at a dry cleaners), he will demand 60/40 throwing up another road block, or exit strategy.

[IMDAZED]

Good then you will be when Pac says that he will accept random testing. You know what will happen at point? Mayweather will come up with another exit strategy, which he is already voicing now through the media, telling Pac to get his PPV numbers if he wants to fight, in other words he agreed to a 50/50 split but now because he knows the PPV numbers against Mosley will beat the numbers Pac had against Clottey (of course it would because Clottey has the name value of a guy who works at a dry cleaners), he will demand 60/40 throwing up another road block, or exit strategy.

Ok, but that is all conjecture. The bottom line is that when they were actually negotiating, it was Manny who created an exit strategy and then exited.