Comments Thread For: Mayweather-Pacquiao: Roach Has a Drug Testing Solution

[Vasyl’s dad]

What up Tilla...

I have this question for you...do you think PBF is even allowed to "SUSPECT" PAC of PED use???

I personally don't think he's guilty but I do think he, his trainer, team and promoter have been extremely suspect in their RESPONSES to even being ASKED to take the tests which by the way have made him look even more SUSPECT...

This seems to be and issue, in my opinion, a lot of boxing fans have with PAC fans - They (PAC fan) seem to gloss over or outright believe everything PAC and his team have said in regards to not agreeing to PED testing...

I enjoy watching PBF but his antics, while funny, make it very challenging to defend and support him...

So again, my question has nothing to do with PBF, it is addressed to the supporters of PAC...Do you really think PAC is above being ASKED to take the tests???

Peace Mo!

I don't have a problem with people being su****ious of anyone.


Nobody is above su****ion, but you'd better have some pretty good facts to make your claims.

In regards to how Pac has responded, no matter what, just based on the question being asked, some will look at him guilty no matter what. He could have said nothing and that would have still been enough for people to decide he was roiding.

I also have no problem with better drug testing.

I'd rather just see it implemented across the board instead of singling out fighters because they pose a threat to you which leads me to this,

if Pac was such an easy fight as Floyd claimed,

why not just do it like he did for 40 fights?

[brick wall]

Floyd Sr is echoing what Floyd Jr clearly thinks. No question about that. But again, when Pac's reps are spewing this kind of BS...wtf? Not to mention the BS from his own mouth. Apparently he's pretty good at that himself.

Second, it would've been sad to see Pac turn down the testing. To men, anyway. What's the big deal? He'd be setting a precedent. But to turn it down after all those lies and bogus excuses...disgraceful. He should be ashamed - he and his whole team. I suspect they are, which is why after filing a lawsuit he's open to fighting Floyd again (wtf? Morals or Money, which is it Manny?) and his trainer now wants to negotiate from his home.

lol relax in terms of lying and being disgraceful pac does not even compare to floyd. at least pac does not lie when it comes to what he does in the ring, he always say he wants to entertain boxing fans and that's what he exactly does.

[switchsouthpaw]

Ok, let me know.

Take a look at the post you just responded to, I edited it and cited an example.

[IMDAZED]

you lie i have many examples

by the way you lied blood test can detect EPO.. and you said i lied, you also said in my world blood test is unnecassary and the so called experts which you never cited by the way.. said its necassaryy

well ill cite you an expert whos pretty much the main guy you wanna go to when he talks about PEDS..
b
Don M. Catlin M.D, hes the guy who busted the balco pharmancy and develop the test for the clear.. and here's a conversaion he had with a reporter regarding blood test


Question:
) I've heard a lot about using both a blood and urine test to detect EPO use. Doesn't an athlete have to test positive for EPO on both the blood and urine test to be considered a doper?

No.

Blood testing has received a lot of attention because it is a new concept in the drug testing world. There is a blood test for EPO use, but it is only an indirect test that can be used as a screening measure to save money by determining whether the urine EPO test needs to be conducted. All the blood test does is tell the testers that the athlete has an unusual blood profile that warrants further investigation. The abnormal profile could be caused by the use of EPO, some other blood boosting drug, or just be explained by the athlete being a genetic freak or living at altitude. The testers then perform the urine EPO test to determine whether artificial EPO is the cause of the abnormality.

The blood test does not have to be done in order for the athlete to test positive for EPO.


LINK:http://www.letsrun.com/2003/epoqa.php

youre a liar

am i wrong? youre either a liar or an ignoramus.. so which one r u?

assuming youre not a liar and you dunno wtf u talking about.. how dda heck u gonna talk about drug testing.. how do u know which drugs test is good and which one you want when you dont know what you want??

LMAO

OWNED

I guess I've been owned to you. The bottom line is that the USADA and the WADA, two commissions you cited, believe blood and urine testing should be done unannounced for prevention and detection.

[bdevils]

Irrelevant. Pac beat Cotto to a pulp. Cotto beat Shane. So this whole thing about Pac ducking Mosley is insane. Assuming he did. What's the point when Mosley can't even beat Cotto?

And Mosley beat Marg to a pulp. Marg beat Cotto. So wuts your point?

[Vasyl’s dad]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We know Floyd has avoided some serious competition. Just like you do questions.

What questions?

Questions that only a member of the respective teams can answer?

How does one avoid those?

[Alibata]

Yeah but Pac's only afraid of needles if it happens 24 days to a fight.

Get that **** straight brah. Don't mean he won't be afraid of being violated during that time it is just that that is what he is willing to do. Floyd should be flattered Manny obliged him somewhat though it is not a comfortable thing for him nor required of him.

[switchsouthpaw]

you lie i have many examples

by the way you lied blood test can detect EPO.. and you said i lied, you also said in my world blood test is unnecassary and the so called experts which you never cited by the way.. said its necassaryy

well ill cite you an expert whos pretty much the main guy you wanna go to when he talks about PEDS..
b
Don M. Catlin M.D, hes the guy who busted the balco pharmancy and develop the test for the clear.. and here's a conversaion he had with a reporter regarding blood test


Question:
) I've heard a lot about using both a blood and urine test to detect EPO use. Doesn't an athlete have to test positive for EPO on both the blood and urine test to be considered a doper?

No.

Blood testing has received a lot of attention because it is a new concept in the drug testing world. There is a blood test for EPO use, but it is only an indirect test that can be used as a screening measure to save money by determining whether the urine EPO test needs to be conducted. All the blood test does is tell the testers that the athlete has an unusual blood profile that warrants further investigation. The abnormal profile could be caused by the use of EPO, some other blood boosting drug, or just be explained by the athlete being a genetic freak or living at altitude. The testers then perform the urine EPO test to determine whether artificial EPO is the cause of the abnormality.

The blood test does not have to be done in order for the athlete to test positive for EPO.


LINK:http://www.letsrun.com/2003/epoqa.php

youre a liar

am i wrong? youre either a liar or an ignoramus.. so which one r u?

assuming youre not a liar and you dunno wtf u talking about.. how dda heck u gonna talk about drug testing.. how do u know which drugs test is good and which one you want when you dont know what you want??

LMAO

OWNED

Caitlin is the foremost expert on PED detection, as a professor he developed testing methods for the Olympic committee.

[IMDAZED]

lol relax in terms of lying and being disgraceful pac does not even compare to floyd. at least pac does not lie when it comes to what he does in the ring, he always say he wants to entertain boxing fans and that's what he exactly does.

Yeah that may be true but doesn't change the fact that Pacquiao lied and contradicted himself with regards to the issue we're discussing here.

[IMDAZED]

Get that **** straight brah. Don't mean he won't be afraid of being violated during that time it is just that that is what he is willing to do. Floyd should be flattered Manny obliged him somewhat.

Right, right, right.