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  • #51
    TS is right.....but the thing is, the Floyd fans NEED to downplay Shane in order for them to feel safe about whats going to happen....its like a psych job for themselves......they know Floyd hasn't REALLY rumbled since '07 and hasn't fought a LIVE opponent since Castillo.....they know this!!

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    • #52
      Originally posted by SekondzOut View Post
      TS is right.....but the thing is, the Floyd fans NEED to downplay Shane in order for them to feel safe about whats going to happen....its like a psych job for themselves......they know Floyd hasn't REALLY rumbled since '07 and hasn't fought a LIVE opponent since Castillo.....they know this!!
      I'll admit I laughed at that. lol.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
        Well that's why his fans are his fans. Some of them have intelligent reasons for believing Mayweather will walk through Shane. Others give Shane a far more serious chance. Can't paint fans of a fighter with the same brush.

        On that note, it's crazy to use Shane's fight against Mayorga as a reason for believing Floyd will dominate. That was a junior middle fight and Mosley is better suited for 147. Save for one fight against a washed up Vargas, he has looked terrible there, dating back to the Raul Marquez fight. At 147, he's an entirely different animal. A young, fresher Cotto (barely) bested him but no other welter has been able to do a damn thing to him since Vernon Forrest. He was crafty, almost brilliant against Collazo. Shane has slowed down some but he is quite formidable. And that is the general consensus among boxing fans.

        true, but i disagree when people point to shanes win over marg as a pre-cursor in what may happen on May 1st. TBH marg just stood infront of shane all fight, no movement, no jab no nothing. We all know floyd mayweather, great boxing skills, great timing and great defense.

        Looking forward to a great fight on saturday

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        • #54
          Originally posted by JonoYoungP4P View Post
          true, but i disagree when people point to shanes win over marg as a pre-cursor in what may happen on May 1st. TBH marg just stood infront of shane all fight, no movement, no jab no nothing. We all know floyd mayweather, great boxing skills, great timing and great defense.

          Looking forward to a great fight on saturday
          True. I saw a few flaws in Shane against Margarito, signs that he's slowing down. So had Margarito. But Shane showed a lot in that fight. He followed a gameplan to perfection, threw with power, speed and accuracy. Showed his solid beard, stamina and worked the body. He's got plenty left in the tank and that is a problem for anyone at 147.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
            OK I am going to go step by step since you're having no reading comprehension.

            I personally think Floyd is going to win a decision. However, I think Shane has a really good chance of winning this fight. So if Floyd win he will get all the credit in the World from me.

            For example if I would think Floyd(who is #2 P4P in the world) had only a puncher chance of beating Pacquiao(who is #1 P4P in the world). Then I would and should not give Pacquiao credit for beating Floyd. Because, I didn't think Floyd has any chance to begin with.

            Now for the record that is just an example of course I think Floyd could beat Pac. I think that fight is a 60-40 in favor of Floyd. Now are you following me so far?

            Now forget the P4P rankings and the names for one second. If fighter A is fighting fighter B and fighter B has zero chance of winning then fighter A is cherry picking. And, fighter A should not get credit for beating somebody who has no chance of winning.

            Do you want me to make it more simpler for you?
            nope i completely got what you said the first time which is why everything that i said is still correct. you believe (by your own admission) that the p4p #2 and p4p #3 could possibly be a cherry pick if the #3 has no chance of winning. this is incorrect. if the #2 and #1 guys failed with their negotiations then the next best option that #2 has is the #3 guy. IN NO WAY IS THAT CHERRY PICKING regardless of whether or not #3 has no chance. #2 can't help that he's just that good. there would literally be nobody else for him to fight that wasn't cherry picking if the #3 guy wasnt good enough and #1 guys negotiations fell through. so it is not cherry picking because #2 is picking the strongest possible opponent (even though he may not be that strong).

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