Floyd shouldn't get credit for beating Mosley...

[jrosales13]

so then the only person that floyd or manny can fight would be each other by your own logic. if the p4p#2 guy cant fight the p4p#3 guy without it being called cherry picking, then manny and floyd could literally fight no one but each other without it being cherry picking by your own logic.

How is it my logic? Explain?

Like I said I give Shane a good chance in beating Floyd and I think Shane would beat Pac. So they each get credit for beating me...

But, if Shane or anybody else had zero chance in beating Floyd or Pac then Floyd and Pac are cherry picking if they don't fight each other...

If I think Floyd has zero chance of beating Pac. Or if I think Floyd only has a punchers chance in beating Pac. Then Pac would be cherry picking Floyd and vice versa... Why should I give Pac credit for beating Floyd when I think Floyd only has a puncher chance or vice versa?

Do you understand the logic now?

[jrosales13]

He has a punchers chance. Thats it in IMO. I wont act like he doesnt hit hard. He KO'd a 175 Pound Mayorga and just KO'd Iron Chin Margarito.

However I think Floyd will **** him. Does that mean Shanes a bum? Nope. Its more of a testament to how good Floyd is then how bad Shane is.

Floyd is great Shane is no bum I got that. But, if Shane has only a puncher chance then he is cherry picking Burner.

Floyd should be fighting somebody who has more of a puncher chance for it not to be called cherry picking...

Berto and Alexander are not bums. But, Pac is just on another level IMO. And, neither of those fighters have a chance in beating him. And, if Pac fought them Pac would be cherry picking.

I think Pac would just destroy them does not mean that they are bums. It is more of a testament to how good Pac is then how bad they are. But, since I am only giving them a puncher chance to no chance then Pac would be cherry picking...

[el malo]

According to his fans, and if he wins by close decision it would be worse according to his fans. I say this because according to his fans Shane Mosley should be easy prey for Floyd, if Mayorga could "outbox" Mosley, there is no reason why Mayweather should have any trouble with Mosley or lose a round against Mosley, all of this according to his fans. They make Mosley sound like a cherry picked opponent, so when/if Floyd wins I don't want to hear anyone say Floyd is the best or **** like that because according to his fans Mosley isn't on Floyd's level so why should he be given credit or celebrate that victory, obviously I know I will see threads adoring Mayweather but it is wishful thinking on my part. Now if Mayweather loses he would have lost to a guy that got supposedly outboxed by Ricardo Mayorga so that would make Mayweather a bum. The point of all this is seriously if you want people to recognize Mayweather for what he is, try not to downplay his opponent, it's getting ridiculous and these are the same people that will later preach about Mayweather's greatness but right now if we let ourselves be lead on with what Mayweather's fans it won't mean much because that was supposed to do. Instead of downplaying Mosley why not try to call the fight as it is which is mostly dead even, so then that way both fighters could be given credit. I for one will give credit to whoever wins but I find ridiculous that those who now downplay Mosley will be preaching Mayweather as the GOAT after the fight.

yup but it aint just the idiot *****s, floyd himself does nothing but disrespect or discredit shane. all he talks about is how shane is 40 years old, how he got his ass beat by winky, forrest, cotto etc. then he wants to be considered the g.o.a.t.? he's a moron.

[Big Vern]

Cool,

I see it as Floyd fans are discrediting the win in saying Shane has no chance of winning.

Lets just forget the names for a second. If fighter A is fighting fighter B and fighter B has zero chance of winning then fighter A is cherry picking. And, fighter A should not get credit for beating somebody who has no chance of winning.

And, there are Floyd fans out there who are giving Shane no chance. Is those same Floyd fans who are discrediting Floyd victory...

I am a Pac fan. I think Berto has zero chance in beating Pac. And, if they fight and Pac destroys Berto. I would give Pac credit for doing what he was suppose to do. But, I would not act like it is a good win. Because, I gave Berto no shot of winning.

I get what you're saying. It's like the Pac/Clottey fight. I called bull**** on that fight since day one. Everyone knew what Clottey was gonna do. Still, I give Pac props for doing his thing and pulling out the W.

Thing is though, if Floyd gets in there and dominates Shane, how many people on here do you see praising Floyd for just being that good? It won't be many, man. It'll be all, "Shane never had a shot", etc.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Floyd is great Shane is no bum I got that. But, if Shane has only a puncher chance then he is cherry picking Burner.

Floyd should be fighting somebody who has more of a puncher chance for it not to be called cherry picking...

Berto and Alexander are not bums. But, Pac is just on another level IMO. And, neither of those fighters have a chance in beating him. And, if Pac fought them Pac would be cherry picking.

I think Pac would just destroy them does not mean that they are bums. It is more of a testament to how good Pac is then how bad they are. But, since I am only giving them a puncher chance to no chance then Pac would be cherry picking...

One thing though. Im a fan. Just because I say it doesnt mean its gospel. Like I told Imdazed theres a chance Shane makes it closer then I thought and we get a classic. We dont know exactly how it will play out.

[ajohnz]

How is it my logic? Explain?

Like I said I give Shane a good chance in beating Floyd and I think Shane would beat Pac. So they each get credit for beating me...

But, if Shane or anybody else had zero chance in beating Floyd or Pac then Floyd and Pac are cherry picking if they don't fight each other...

If I think Floyd has zero chance of beating Pac. Or if I think Floyd only has a punchers chance in beating Pac. Then Pac would be cherry picking Floyd and vice versa... Why should I give Pac credit for beating Floyd when I think Floyd only has a puncher chance or vice versa?

Do you understand the logic now?

you agreed that if the p4p #2 and p4p #3 fight it could still be considered cherry picking by the p4p #2 guy. with that logic only the p4p #2 and p4p #1 guys could fight without it being considered cherry picking by the p4p #2 guy.

[jrosales13]

One thing though. Im a fan. Just because I say it doesnt mean its gospel. Like I told Imdazed theres a chance Shane makes it closer then I thought and we get a classic. We dont know exactly how it will play out.

Well your prediction history is a testament to that...

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Well your prediction history is a testament to that...

Red K.


j/k

[FloydTBE]

Before the fight was all signed and agreed, people were saying that floyd was scared of shane, and that shane is coming of biggest win of his career, now the fight has been made and the fight is almost upon us,people are now saying that floyd shouldnt get any credit for beating shane. It confuses me

[jrosales13]

you agreed that if the p4p #2 and p4p #3 fight it could still be considered cherry picking by the p4p #2 guy. with that logic only the p4p #2 and p4p #1 guys could fight without it being considered cherry picking by the p4p #2 guy.

OK I am going to go step by step since you're having no reading comprehension.

I personally think Floyd is going to win a decision. However, I think Shane has a really good chance of winning this fight. So if Floyd win he will get all the credit in the World from me.

For example if I would think Floyd(who is #2 P4P in the world) had only a puncher chance of beating Pacquiao(who is #1 P4P in the world). Then I would and should not give Pacquiao credit for beating Floyd. Because, I didn't think Floyd has any chance to begin with.

Now for the record that is just an example of course I think Floyd could beat Pac. I think that fight is a 60-40 in favor of Floyd. Now are you following me so far?

Now forget the P4P rankings and the names for one second. If fighter A is fighting fighter B and fighter B has zero chance of winning then fighter A is cherry picking. And, fighter A should not get credit for beating somebody who has no chance of winning.

Do you want me to make it more simpler for you?