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  • Walt Liquor
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    #81
    Originally posted by savorduhflavor
    Dude, no way on all accounts. You give Shane more credit for a VERY tough first fight with a shot Vargas, and a KO over a completely shot Vargas than Floyd's win over a plenty game Oscar? That's crazy to me, but we're just gonna have to agree to disagree.

    So you give Shane credit for taking fights that, styles wise, were tougher? Corrales was held in just as high regard as Forrest at the time Floyd beat him, but Floyd gets credit taken away cause it was a good style matchup? Come on, that's bull****.

    Winky's probably better than both, but Shane lost to him twice, the first fight was pretty one sided too.

    Shane was ****** for taking those fights, Winky was supposed to be a tuneup fight for Trinidad. Sorry, but I don't praise Shane for that. Corrales and Castillo were the highest rated fighters in their respective divisions when Floyd fought them....what more did you want from him at that point?
    I thikn Corrales was a great win for floyd, he gets more credit for that win than shane gets for his l's vs forrest and wright. BUT shane's win v dela in their first fight was a better win.

    I was referring to diego in the "level of comp" discussion. WInky and Vernon were both better fighters than diego, Fighting castillo also took big stones from floyd. i'm not giving him no credit. i think shanes level of comp is better, but that deosn't mean that floyd's sucks.

    I don't know if Vargas was shot, but floyd beat an oscar (8-4 I think) that took absolutely no chances and kept trying the same thing over and over the whole fight. Vargas was coming to fight.

    Winky may have been a ****** fight, but he was the most avoided fighter in the world and shane showed stones taking that fight.

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    • Blubba
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      #82
      do we even need a poll lol

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      • edgarg
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        #83
        Originally posted by Iceta Lives
        At 147 the last few years I'd say Mosley's resume ****s on Floyd's. Collazo is a good win. If you are talking about what have you done for me lately Mosley's body of work is way more impressive. Mayweather's resume is actually overrated because there are a lot of guys he leaped over. Both Floyd and Mosley leaped over Stevie Johnston though. They however would've beaten him.
        I'm not sure you are right, Stevie Johnson was a brilliant boxer, and had 2 life and death fights with Castillo. If you recall the judges scored wrongly in the second fight, making Johnson the split winner by a point, and when it was discovered, Johnson went to Castillo's dressing room to give him back the belt.

        Also he defended his title around 10-12 times, either by KO or by very wide UD.

        I'm not sure if Mayweather could beat him at his best. It would be a masterful fight, no doubt.

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        • savorduhflavor
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          #84
          Originally posted by Walt Liquor
          I thikn Corrales was a great win for floyd, he gets more credit for that win than shane gets for his l's vs forrest and wright. BUT shane's win v dela in their first fight was a better win.

          I was referring to diego in the "level of comp" discussion. WInky and Vernon were both better fighters than diego, Fighting castillo also took big stones from floyd. i'm not giving him no credit. i think shanes level of comp is better, but that deosn't mean that floyd's sucks.

          I don't know if Vargas was shot, but floyd beat an oscar (8-4 I think) that took absolutely no chances and kept trying the same thing over and over the whole fight. Vargas was coming to fight.

          Winky may have been a ****** fight, but he was the most avoided fighter in the world and shane showed stones taking that fight.
          Agree that DLH 1 was the best win either one of them had.

          Shane's depth is weak. Shane fought no one at 135. Floyd fought top guys at 130, 135, 147, and 154.

          Floyd had a lot to do with Oscar looking how he looked.

          And yes, Vargas was shot. Floyd gets more credit for beating Oscar than Mosley does beating Vargas either time. That's not even debatable IMO.

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          • Walt Liquor
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            #85
            Originally posted by No Ceilings
            Lets be clear Tito ruined Vargas.

            So in hindsight was Cotto, Hatton, oscar and Diaz all tailor made for Pacquiao? Just wondering if this logic applies for all fighters or just Floyd.

            ODH was at 150 Pounds a year after he lost to Floyd.
            so you're saying he wasn't weight drained for pac then if he was only 3 lbs over?

            cotto- nowhere near tailor made, he was looking good until manny fighured him out
            hatton- tailor made, however he was fighting at his optimal weight, compared to when floyd made him come up in weight
            diaz, obviously talior made.


            ya'll like to talk about wieght classes...but that doesn't matter with manny to you

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            • MOTHER DUCKER
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              #86
              Mayweather probably or pretty close..

              Lets be honest Mosley didn't fight anyone of real note at 135 and skipped over 140

              He is basically 1-1 with Oscar + he roided the 2nd fight

              0-4 vs Winky/Forrest the next 2 best fighters on his resume

              Lost to Cotto

              Beat a Vargas who was pretty done by that stage, same with Mayorga didn't the two freakin retire after they fought Shane anyway and don't give me some bs about Shane retiring them. They were pretty much done and very minor wins

              Then Margarito ..

              So since Oscar 2nd fight he has not had one really good win up untill the Margarito fight and lets be honest he lost to Oscar and was roiding. I think its fair to argue that Shane has only had two major wins vs top guys and the other 5 fights vs very good prime opponents he has lost.
              Last edited by MOTHER DUCKER; 04-26-2010, 08:25 PM.

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              • pasawayako
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                #87
                This shouldn't be close, mosley by a mile.

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                • Walt Liquor
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by savorduhflavor
                  Agree that DLH 1 was the best win either one of them had.

                  Shane's depth is weak. Shane fought no one at 135. Floyd fought top guys at 130, 135, 147, and 154.
                  Floyd had a lot to do with Oscar looking how he looked.

                  And yes, Vargas was shot. Floyd gets more credit for beating Oscar than Mosley does beating Vargas either time. That's not even debatable IMO.
                  Shane's depth at 135 is weak????? then you say floyd fought the best at 154? C'mon

                  There was noone left at 135 for Shane, Floyd fought one over the hill cash cow at 154. That was just bad.

                  Floyd fought the best at 130-135 (for the most part), 8-10 years ago. Shane fought the best at 147 and 154 FOR THE LAST 8-10 YEARS.

                  Floyd did not fight the best at 147. Rankings mean jack shi t. It's how good the fighters actually are that counts. Margs was the best at 147.

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                  • -EX-
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                    #89
                    Shane's faced better fighters, Floyd's beaten better fighters overall...

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                    • Brz_Pugilist
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                      #90
                      Money Mayweather will always be a clown who handpicked his opponents just like Roy.I hope Shane puts him in his place and shuts him up on saturday.

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