Cotto Overrated?

[Tha Greatest]

Whos the dumbass now?

You are so ****in GAY

btw your the dumbass..

[abdiel2k3]

You're blowing this way out of proportion and have really been the only other guy I've seen (besides people that just can't stand Miguel for all the hyype he's gotten) to say such extreme things about that fight.

#1, Cotto was NEVER hurt to the body. I've seen him back off from a bodyshot at the hands of N'Dou that you could tell he felt, but he never looked hurt from anything that Abbie threw at his body. You need to check your eyes when assessing damage to a fighter. I've been following Cotto much longer and much more closely than you have.

#2, I completely disagree with you about him "changing his punches after he gets hit". I think he was changing his gameplan to adapt to Abbies solid defense and in your face pressure. At no point was Cotto just pushing out punches to test Mo. He was throwing combinations off the ropes to get space and to score sometimes sure, but thats just strategy. I thought Cotto landed the best body punches of the fight with 3 or 4 crisp left and rights to the body, and he landed two VERY hard crosses in that fight that were not only crisp, but were very effective. Abdullaevs punches werent so hard to the point that they sapped all of Cotto's strength or troubled him so much like you are trying to imply here...

#3, don't give me the whole "don't insult this and that and the sport yada yada" business because I've been watching boxing for almost 16 years and have developed a pretty good sense of when a fighter is taking punishment and when he's not. If Abdullaev were completely fine and wasn't hurt at all he would continued to fight despite the right eye. He was taking too many hard shots AS A RESULT OF COTTO's HARD PUNCHING and knew that the fight was going to get out of hand. This is EXACTLY a case of a fighters face telling the story of the fight. Had Abduallaev KOed Cotto or something but had the swollen face as compared to Cotto's unmarked face then maybe you'd have a point.

I had Cotto up 5-2-1 going into the 9th. It was plain as day to see that he fought a good strategic fight against a pretty good opponent, but if you don't want to see that then theres no point in debating.

i dont dislike cotto
i disliked his last performance
plus the one against chop chop
and the Ndou fight didnt do much to help him in my eyes in the last rounds
bottom line
i dont think cotto can take it as well as he can give it
and soon as he gets hit he does lose his composure
im not talkin about how his punches changed in just this fight
like he was adapting
just the form of the punches change

[dogtown123]

there shouldnt even be an argument here cotto beat the crap out of abduelav and he took some good shots that obviously didnt hurt him cause he kept coming back even if he was hurt he does a nice job of throwing a combo back after he gets hurt to make it look like he wasnt dazed to the judges.

[abdiel2k3]

Whos the dumbass now?

i guess i am cuz i took couple minutes to draw "Antenas" on ur pic
o no wait a sec
that was ur dumbass
Lol

[mic573]

Hatton and Cotto would be tough fight for both fighters in my opinion. Hatton's pressure would give Cotto problems but Cotto's movement would give Hatton just as much problems. Hatton won't outmuscle Cotto either the way he did Tszyu. Thier strength is about equal as well as thier power. They are both accumilation punchers not one punch fighters. Cotto has better defense than Hatton. I see a close decision victory for Cotto. Abdullaev's defense made it harder for Cotto and I haven't seen that kind of defense from Hatton.

Mayweather would beat Cotto and I would give Harris a very good chance of beating Cotto right now.

[IwatchBoxing]

i guess i am cuz i took couple minutes to draw "Antenas" on ur pic
o no wait a sec
that was ur dumbass
Lol

You must be my long lost twin....

[oldgringo]

i dont dislike cotto
i disliked his last performance
plus the one against chop chop
and the Ndou fight didnt do much to help him in my eyes in the last rounds
bottom line
i dont think cotto can take it as well as he can give it
and soon as he gets hit he does lose his composure
im not talkin about how his punches changed in just this fight
like he was adapting
just the form of the punches change

None of this makes sense to me. His punching doesn't change as far as his adapting to his opponent but the form of his punching changes? Is that what you're trying to say? I didn't see any evidence in that fight where he lost his punching composure or his form changed. Every time he got hit (which was mainly on the ropes because Abbie did NOTHING in the middle of the ring or in counterpunching oppotunities) he would take the shot, fight off the ropes with combos, bodyshots, or uppercuts, and reset. I really saw nothing to support your claim.

[abdiel2k3]

Hatton and Cotto would be tough fight for both fighters in my opinion. Hatton's pressure would give Cotto problems but Cotto's movement would give Hatton just as much problems. Hatton won't outmuscle Cotto either the way he did Tszyu. Thier strength is about equal as well as thier power. They are both accumilation punchers not one punch fighters. Cotto has better defense than Hatton. I see a close decision victory for Cotto. Abdullaev's defense made it harder for Cotto and I haven't seen that kind of defense from Hatton.

Mayweather would beat Cotto and I would give Harris a very good chance of beating Cotto right now.

that how i felt b4 this fight
it came down cotto being better skilled
but like i said
his skill goes out the window when he gets pressured n hit
and dats what hattons all about

[dogtown123]

None of this makes sense to me. His punching doesn't change as far as his adapting to his opponent but the form of his punching changes? Is that what you're trying to say? I didn't see any evidence in that fight where he lost his punching composure or his form changed. Every time he got hit (which was mainly on the ropes because Abbie did NOTHING in the middle of the ring or in counterpunching oppotunities) he would take the shot, fight off the ropes with combos, bodyshots, or uppercuts, and reset. I really saw nothing to support your claim.

i agree 100%

[mic573]

that how i felt b4 this fight
it came down cotto being better skilled
but like i said
his skill goes out the window when he gets pressured n hit
and dats what hattons all about

He showed alot of skill in my opinion when he was pressured. He showed skills off the ropes though he got tagged with the righthand too much and he showed skills in the middle of the ring. Abdullaev was doing his best work along the ropes but was getting punished in return. Half the punches that Cotto was getting tagged with on the ropes weren't landing flush either.