Where does Tyson rank on the all time Heavyweight List

[SonnyG8R]

My first post, hello all
Would say Tyson is top 10 to top 15

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no "cinderella Man" Can Exist In This Time...

Ever hear of Buster Douglass?

I rank Tyson around 15 alltime I think.

[LuKahnLi]

I don't think so. If he wanted out, he would've just complained to the ref and then walked off, as in quit. No, he's a fighter and he wanted to fight and hurt Evander, so he finally did the only thing that he thought could hurt him.

He wanted to hurt Holyfield....but if he continued fighting it would be he who got hurt. He wanted to hurt Holyfield but he didn't want to keep fighting.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not condoning it. Nor am I saying Tyson was a great warrior or noble fighter or something. It's just that it's all too easy to paint him now with this big broad "Quitter" or "No Heart" label, and frankly it's not supported by the evidence. Was he immature? - Yes. Did he get frustrated too easily? - Yes. Was he feebleminded and incapable of adjusting to an opponent's tactics? - Yes. But until his last 2 fights he wasn't a quitter.

Not supported by evidence? Could he have gotten up against Lewis, Douglas, or Holy I???? He just stayed down in each instance. He was not out.

It is his feeblemindedness that CAUSED him to try to find a way out. If Tyson cannot BULLY his opponent then he DOESN'T WANT TO FIGHT. This has always been his MO.

[mosley]

so the one left hook cut both of his eyes? thats amazing i didnt kno that was possible to cut 2 eyes on one punch, i gotta learn that one, But i do agree his problem was mental, if he had the mentalness of ALi Tyson could have been the greatest of all time. But he didnt so hes around the Top 10 somewhere.

Thats not what I said. Tyson complained that Holyfield butted him and blood spurted from his eye after the butt. Holyfield denied it, who are you gonna believe. I wasnt talking about the other cut but the one that caused Tysons over reaction. Mills lane after the first bite told Tyson "If you do that one more time I will DQ you" so Tyson did it again. There is never any excuse for biting.

[mosley]

You're going way overboard here - he quit against Williams and McBride but not Holyfield or Lewis, not by a longshot. Holy I, he was in there getting roughed up and taking it til the bitter end. Holy II, he was trying so hard he ended up biting the guy (that's how desperately he wanted to beat him). Against Lewis he took countless huge shots before finally going down.

I don't see how you call any of that "quitting". In fact, Shane Mosley's efforts against Winky or Vernon (in his first bouts with them) looked a lot more like "quitting" to me.

"Thats how desperately he wanted to beat him?"

If you get butted you butt back when the ref cant see, you dont spit out your mouth gaurd and bite his ear and when the ref says "If you do that again I will DQ you" and then bite him again! That is a fighter desperately looking for a way out.

[IRONTIGER]

Michael Gerard Tyson

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At age 20, Iron Mike Tyson became the youngest World Heavyweight champion with a 2nd round TKO over Trevor Berbick 1986-11-22

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