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I am the one that stated Chris really has not fought anyone. And if you believe otherwise fill me in because I really am interested in your opinion on why you believe I am wrong with that assessment. With that said, I never claimed that the heavyweight division is a pile of crap. Simply because I am one that truly believes that the Klit brothers are just to good for the current crop of heavyweight fighters. And I have a novel idea. Maybe if the top heavyweights started to fight each other instead of just waiting around for their shot at the money. Just maybe if they fought each other maybe it would better prepare them for when they do get their shot at one of the Klit brothers. Nah, I guess that is to much to ask.
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man i mean im 100% sure Arreola will knock this foo out but i read somewhere he was gonna come in 230 something his Henry Ramirez his trainer said it too. Although i must say he looks in way better shape then the klit fight i say he wins it by koComment
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I don't see why people think Arreola can knock Ademak out.
If "Bad" Chad Dawson couldn't KO him, how on earth is Arreola gonna do it? While Arreola has been busy eating more donuts and fighting subpar competition, Ademak has consistently fought good competition, been in top shape, and continues to work on his skills.
I thought the loss to Klitscho would have woke him up. That hey, to be the best you really do have to condition, work on your technique, and all your skills. He hasn't proven he can do one bit of that.
I've seen no improvement in his skills or his conditioning. He is a big puncher and that is all I see. If he can catch Ademak, sure, he may KO him. I'm just going to go with the statistical liklihood that possibility is maybe 10-15% at best.
Ademak by decision.Comment
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I have to say I completely agree with your point. Except Chambers, who actually fought a few top 10 fighters before getting his shot, the rest of the top guys seem intent on ducking each other and cashing out against the Klitschkos. Even Povetkin, after beating Chambers, has dramatically stepped down his level of competition. Terrible matchmaking overall.
I hope you're not implying that Dawson hits harder than Arreola, because that's laughable.Comment
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Than a looping slow hook, uh yeah.
Power is relative when you can't hit anything.
Chad Dawson might not have 1 punch KO power, but of all the guys Ademak has fought he would have been the one most likely thru an accumulation of punches, or combinations been able to TKO him.
Like when Dawson put Tarver to the mat in the 12th. Well timed, accurate punches.
I'm not implying he is stronger. I would have thought reasoning why Dawson would be more likely to be able to TKO Ademak than Arreola would have been obvious.
Arreola = No Skill, No conditioning. If this fight gets to round 6, than chance of Arreola scoring a KO goes from 10-15% (which I'm being generous with) to 1%.Comment
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Oh, you mean like when Arreola was so effective against Klitscho with that power?
The reason I said that is because boxing skill is what would get Ademak KOd. Ademak has fought at cruiser weight and better competition than Arreola hands down.
The only way he will get KOd is from Arreola clinching and trying to muscle him into a position to get a lucky punch. And that is all.
I wasn't comparing their power. Jesus, where did I say that. I was comparing the liklihood of KO. Statistically from my view, Dawson had a much higher probability of scoring a TKO or KO on Ademak than Arreola does. Why is that so hard to comprehend.Comment
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Lol its funny you mention Chad Dawson when you think who has he recently KOed? Arreolas punches were hurting Vitali he just wasnt able to land because of distance and Vitalis overall ring generalship(kinda looked like running at some points but he played it smart), Adamek is gonna be able to be caught Estrada aint that much faster than Arreola so yea
Chad Dawson is good a great boxer in fact, but hes 75 lbs less than Arreola and thats alot of extra weight behind a punch. Adamek has resistance in the his championship divisions but when it comes to heavyweights, Golota was past his prime and wasnt able to land **** and Estrada wasnt a threat power wise so its going to be a whole another story tomorrow. Not saying theres no chance in hell for Adamek to win because he knows how to box, but lets see how he takes heavyweight punches in combos.Comment
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when did adamek become a boxer with brilliant defence? Arreola will land big at some point its just weather or not adamek will take it. I like chris in this fight mid to late k.o/tko despite being a fat turdComment
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I don't know how to explain this more simply.Lol its funny you mention Chad Dawson when you think who has he recently KOed?
Adamek has never been KOd right? Of the people he has fought in his career, Chad Dawson would have been the most likely to do it.
Statistically, I would bet a higher probability that Chad Dawson could do it than Arreola, over a 12 round fight, given Dawsons skills, power, ability I would give him a 25% Chance to TKO someone like Adamek, I'd give Chris 10-15% with that dropping dramatically after round 6 because he has no conditioning at all. Therefor, if he couldn't, why do people so much want to believe Arreola can?
If I'm not mistaken (I could be) Adamek has never even been to the mat except in the Chad Dawson fight, but that was shown to be from a trip over Dawsons foot and not from a punch.
You mean of the 86 total he landed in the whole fight? Or of the 24 TOTAL power punches he landed over 10 rounds?Arreolas punches were hurting Vitali he just wasnt able to land because of distance and Vitalis overall ring generalship(kinda looked like running at some points but he played it smart), Adamek is gonna be able to be caught Estrada aint that much faster than Arreola so yea
If Vitali was able to diffuse Arreola (which he was), what makes you think Adamek can't? It was exactly Vitalis ring control that enabled him to just pick Arreola apart.
The only reason he even landed 24 power punches was he landed most of them during clinches. With no power.Klitschko thwarted Arreola’s aggression-based blueprint with excellent movement that allowed him to maintain his preferred distance at all times. Arreola’s failure to establish a foothold inside is illustrated by the fact that 67 percent of his total punches were jabs (62 of 224) instead of power punches (24 of 107). The champion’s mobility forced the shorter-armed Arreola to vainly jab his way inside instead of whaling away at the body with both hands along the ropes. The vast majority of Arreola’s power connects were rights to the body during the bout’s relatively few clinches.
Do you want to stick to your statement that...
Yeah, Vitali was totally running from him. Right up to the point where he ended Arreolas night.Arreolas punches were hurting Vitali
Seriously?
[/QUOTE]Chad Dawson is good a great boxer in fact, but hes 75 lbs less than Arreola and thats alot of extra weight behind a punch. Adamek has resistance in the his championship divisions but when it comes to heavyweights, Golota was past his prime and wasnt able to land **** and Estrada wasnt a threat power wise so its going to be a whole another story tomorrow. Not saying theres no chance in hell for Adamek to win because he knows how to box, but lets see how he takes heavyweight punches in combos.
What Combos?
Arreola averages 32 punches A ROUND over his career. 10.1 punches a minute, 1.7 punches every 10 seconds. Don't you have to at least throw 2 punches within maybe 3 seconds for it to be considered a combination?
Adamek won't exchange with Arreola. He will stay on the outside and try to keep moving.
My conclusion was that Chad Dawson simply had a better chance of KOing Adamek when they fought than Chris Arreola does. That's it.Comment
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