Did Manny duck Mayweather when he put the weight penalty in the contract?

[Pacquiao'd]

I never realized Oscar weighed 165 on fight night. I wouldnt say floyd beat Oscar. Oscar gave the fight away. I had it 4-4 through 8 rounds. Then,Oscar did what he does best,faded down the stretch. That was not an impressive victory for floyd. Especially with DLH being on the downside of his career.

then is shows you score ineffective aggression and missed punches b/c dlh won only 3 rounds, 4 is being generous

[Carpe Diem]

Damn, it's going to be a long night.

[jrosales13]

fact is that team pac and roach didnt feel comfortable fighting DLH without him being driained. if that was the case and they were out to prove something they would have fought DLH at 154

if the fight was contracted at 154, Roach would have refused as usual

You do not know that at all...

Only ONE fighter has seriously turned down Oscar... Oscar was still the bigger money fight. And, it was a huge money and Pac didn't have the status that he has now to be able to turn down huge money like that. So we don't know if Pac would of accept it or refuse it if Oscar would offered it...

You letting the hate get the best of you son... You in the same level as Stuey's Revenge... Just try to be unbiased for once and not so much of a hugger/hater... Or you would just be a troll like all these other idiots...

[Pacquiao'd]

You do not know that at all...

Only ONE fighter has seriously turned down Oscar... Oscar was still the bigger money fight. And, it was a huge money and Pac didn't have the status that he has now to be able to turn down huge money like that. So we don't know if Pac would of accept it or refuse it if Oscar would offered it...

You letting the hate get the best of you son... You in the same level as Stuey's Revenge... Just try to be unbiased for once and not so much of a hugger/hater... Or you would just be a troll like all these other idiots...

Oscar dosnt have to be the one to offer. Roach or Pac could have easily said, Oscar, we rather fight you at the weight you campaign at but of course they wouldnt

you are sitting here saying that pacwould have beat oscar at 154, welll obviously team pac didnt have the confidence to take that challenege

[Reloaded]

I never realized Oscar weighed 165 on fight night. I wouldnt say floyd beat Oscar. Oscar gave the fight away. I had it 4-4 through 8 rounds. Then,Oscar did what he does best,faded down the stretch. That was not an impressive victory for floyd. Especially with DLH being on the downside of his career.

He did give him that weight and it made Floyd more defensive same as Baldy Floyd also gave him huge weight , when Floyd fights guys his own weight he either KOs them or totally owns them , I also think his brittle hands have a lot to do with being as skilled as he is .

It was an impressive victory because of the weight , and it wasnt near as close as it looked real time , go and really watch that fight in slow motion etc no commentary , Floyd does things you dont even see real time untill you look in slow motion , when you give a lot of weight to a fighter its generally the later rounds that you can get to him , early they will always be stronger and hard punching , a fight is 12 rounds and the dynamics demand the tacticle use of the entire 12 rounds in winning , Floyd is a pure boxer dont expect him to be a pure puncher you must judge a fighter on what he is , Floyd is greatness at what he does untill he is beaten we dont know how good or how far he can go , his career is not over so its unfair to be judging him when his next 2-4 fights can seal his career as a great , hypothetically lets add Mosley Pac Williams and Martinez to Floyds resume , where is he then .

[Gutz]

Oscar dosnt have to be the one to offer. Roach or Pac could have easily said, Oscar, we rather fight you at the weight you campaign at but of course they wouldnt

you are sitting here saying that pacwould have beat oscar at 154, welll obviously team pac didnt have the confidence to take that challenege

There alot of hate in you...

all you do is post hate threads about Pac... Man it must really suck for you to wake up everyday to see Pac as the #1 P4P.. and Fighter of the decade...

[Pacquiao'd]

He did give him that weight and it made Floyd more defensive same as Baldy Floyd also gave him huge weight , when Floyd fights guys his own weight he either KOs them or totally owns them , I also think his brittle hands have a lot to do with being as skilled as he is .

It was an impressive victory because of the weight , and it wasnt near as close as it looked real time , go and really watch that fight in slow motion etc no commentary , Floyd does things you dont even see real time untill you look in slow motion , when you give a lot of weight to a fighter its generally the later rounds that you can get to him , early they will always be stronger and hard punching , a fight is 12 rounds and the dynamics demand the tacticle use of the entire 12 rounds in winning , Floyd is a pure boxer dont expect him to be a pure puncher you must judge a fighter on what he is , Floyd is greatness at what he does untill he is beaten we dont know how good or how far he can go , his career is not over so its unfair to be judging him when his next 2-4 fights can seal his career as a great , hypothetically lets add Mosley Pac Williams and Martinez to Floyds resume , where is he then .

real talk................

[Stuey's Revenge]

Emotion has nothing to do with my statements about floyd. I call it as I see it. Floyd can change my opinion by whipping Shane,Pac,Margarito,Cotto or Berto. Any 3 of the 5 will do me fine. You see,Im not into hypothetical outcomes in fights. I want to see floyd actually do it. Styles make fights.

[NesNY]

people need to stop mentioning Berto. He's nowhere near Shane, Floyd, or Pacquiao. He'd easily outpoint Cotto and Margarito.

Floyd needs to beat Shane and Pac to quiet the critics. No way around it.

[jrosales13]

Oscar dosnt have to be the one to offer. Roach or Pac could have easily said, Oscar, we rather fight you at the weight you campaign at but of course they wouldnt

you are sitting here saying that pacwould have beat oscar at 154, welll obviously team pac didnt have the confidence to take that challenege

If Martinez tells Floyd, hey lets fight at 154. If Floyd wants to fight Paul Williams, and P-Will says yea I will fight Floyd and I will go down to 147. You think Floyd will say no no no lets fight at 154 or 160? Be honest with this answer...

And, do you remember how much heat Oscar got for picking on "little" Pacquiao? Do you not remember how many people were calling Oscar names for fighting Pac at 147? What do you think he would of gotten for fight Pac at 154? Were you watching boxing around this time? Be honest with me?

Anyways if Oscar would of said fight me at 154 or no fight. Then we honestly don't know if Roach would accept it or refuse it... What you saying it is not facts, you think he would of refuse it and that is fine that is your opinion. But, we would never know. The truth is that it is very rare somebody turning down Oscar. Especially since he was the cash cow at the time. And, Pac didn't have the status that he has now. To even make demands. And, truth is Pac cave in to every Oscar demand there was. Except for the split and that is it. Oscar chose the weight cuz he would of gotten ridiculed for fighting Pac at 154. But, even if they would of fought at 154 I would not have been surprise if Pac would of won. Because, Oscar was really done at that point. He was a partime fighter fulltime promoter...