Did Manny duck Mayweather when he put the weight penalty in the contract?

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    #81
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    No he didn't

    They both weight in the same at 110.

    http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hum...6129&cat=boxer
    they weighed the same but pac had to wear heavier gloves b.c he came in over weight?

    i suggest you peep the link. pac came in over weight

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      #82
      Originally posted by Stuey's Revenge
      Ali was the greatest. He got in the ring and wasnt afraid to be hit. It's why he is the way he is now. Ali was a monster in the ring. He would stand and go toe to toe. He would get knocked down and get back up and win. Dont ever,ever,ever,ever,ever try and compare Ali to floyd. Ali has nuts,at welter floyd doesnt. Now,your turn.
      Your very tonka truck minded to the sport of boxing its much more dynamic than you think .

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      • Stuey's Revenge
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        #83
        Originally posted by No Ceilings
        So because Floyd talks trash he has to fight like a wild man? Makes no sense.

        Floyd embarrasses fighters. How is that not being dominant?
        He didnt embarass DLH or Judah. You could say he embarassed JMM. Then again not taking out someone who had no business at that weight is embarasing to me. I'd say Hatton was embarassing. Though it was competative for 5 rounds. Anyone getting KO'd at welter by floyd should be embarassed.

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          #84
          Originally posted by yesir
          they weighed the same but pac had to wear heavier gloves b.c he came in over weight?

          i suggest you peep the link. pac came in over weight
          I read the link, Left hook is a bloggin site is just a reliable as the Examiner....

          Pac did not come in overweight for that fight...

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            #85
            Originally posted by Stuey's Revenge
            He didnt embarass DLH or Judah. You could say he embarassed JMM. Then again not taking out someone who had no business at that weight is embarasing to me. I'd say Hatton was embarassing. Though it was competative for 5 rounds. Anyone getting KO'd at welter by floyd should be embarassed.
            How many fighters could give Oscar 15 pounds in weight and beat him ?

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              #86
              Originally posted by Reloaded
              Your very tonka truck minded to the sport of boxing its much more dynamic than you think .
              I just dont like fake people. If you fight soft in the ring,dont talk like a hard ass out side of the ring. Hardasses dont need 7 bodyguards. If you say you're the greatest,then show me in the ring. Show me you can handle all adversities. Don't handpick your opponents. Dont retire at 30 after entering a division full of talent. That's all I ask. If he goes toe to toe with Shane and wins,I will give him all props. Floyd doesnt believe in himself to do it though. Outpointing a 38 yr old Mosley is good,not great. Hell,Mayorga gave Shane problems.

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                #87
                Originally posted by Reloaded
                How many fighters could give Oscar 15 pounds in weight and beat him ?
                I don't know...

                But, I do know at the time at 154 that version of Oscar. I would have favor Spinks, Forrest, Martinez, Dzinziruk

                And, at 147 Shane, Margarito, even Cotto...

                There are weight-classes for the reason. But, I would not have been shocked if Pacquiao would of went to 154 and beat that version of Oscar. I could of cared less that if Oscar would of out weight him by 20lbs....

                That was not the 90's version of Oscar. He was not in his prime anymore... He was a PARTIME fighter, FULLTIME promoter. He was getting schooled by Calderon in sparring. On the real he would could not touch a straweight...

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by jrosales13
                  I don't know...

                  But, I do know at the time at 154 that version of Oscar. I would have favor Spinks, Forrest, Martinez, Dzinziruk

                  And, at 147 Shane, Margarito, even Cotto...

                  There are weight-classes for the reason. But, I would not have been shocked if Pacquiao would of went to 154 and beat that version of Oscar. I could of cared less that if Oscar would of out weight him by 20lbs....
                  fact is that team pac and roach didnt feel comfortable fighting DLH without him being driained. if that was the case and they were out to prove something they would have fought DLH at 154

                  if the fight was contracted at 154, Roach would have refused as usual

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Reloaded
                    How many fighters could give Oscar 15 pounds in weight and beat him ?
                    I never realized Oscar weighed 165 on fight night. I wouldnt say floyd beat Oscar. Oscar gave the fight away. I had it 4-4 through 8 rounds. Then,Oscar did what he does best,faded down the stretch. That was not an impressive victory for floyd. Especially with DLH being on the downside of his career.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Stuey's Revenge
                      If you said it to my face,I'd O-DAWG your ass. Then again,you're another internet warrior.
                      I know saying this makes you feel better, but you aren't scaring anyone. I'm no internet warrior, but I don't respect posters such as yourself. It's funny watching you run off at the mouth about what I would or wouldn't say to your face when we both know that you wouldn't show Mayweather any of this disrespect to his face. Maybe you should treat others like you want to be treated?

                      Originally posted by Stuey's Revenge
                      The statements I make regarding floyd have been mimmicked by boxing writers and many,many,many others. So I'm not that delusional. At lightweight,I had no problems with floyd. It's welter where I've lost some respect for the kid.
                      You're supposed to be a grown man, stop trying to use other people as a crutch and stand behind your own statements. Do you think for yourself, or do you just say and believe things because of others? You can be critical without being obnoxious and disrespectful, a 35 year old man should know this. You may not agree with all of Mayweather's choices in opponents since he moved up to Welterweight, but you're out of pocket calling him a coward as you type on a boxing forum. Boxing is a business and the politics of the business have always dictated what fights do and don't get made. Don't hate on Mayweather, hate the game.

                      Originally posted by Stuey's Revenge
                      So I guess all fans of Tyson,Trinidad,Larry Holmes,Hagler,Sugar Ray Leonard, Mosely,Pacquiao,Klitchkos,Roy Jones Jr,Paul Willaims,Margarito and so on and so on,are dumbing down the boxing society????
                      To answer your question, no. Posing a question, what does this have to do with anything that I said? I said that you don't seem to be a fan of the actual sport of boxing because of your comments in the previous post that I quoted. You said some nonsense about not giving Maweather credit for UD'ing Mosley and how you would only give him credit if he "busts Shane's face up". To me that indicated that you don't have a lot of appreciation for the actual sweet science, the art of hitting without getting hit. You just want to see two guy's whipping each other's a**es. That's the impression that I got reading your comments.

                      Originally posted by Stuey's Revenge
                      Believe me when I say,I wish floyd would go in the ring and just walk through people with his handspeed and accuracy. I believe he could be greater at welter than he's shown. My problem is he's too scared to go for it.
                      I don't agree with this criticism of Mayweather, but at least you made it respectfully. There's a clear difference in the tone that you've taken here.

                      Originally posted by Stuey's Revenge
                      JMM was a perfect example of what Im saying. You could say floyd walked through JMM by winning every round. You could also say floyd could've taken out JMM whenever he wanted but refused to go for it. It would've played into what JMM does best,counterpunching. Floyd had the right gameplan but it was very underwhelming to me. Cotto,Margarito,Shane,Berto,Mosely and even Pac(at that weight) would've knocked JMM out.
                      Mayweather did indeed walk through JMM and he did it in an almost flawless manner in my opinion. Could he have knocked JMM out had he taken more chances? Probably. That's not who Mayweather is though. I get frustrated by fans like who who continue to whine about what type of fighter Mayweather is because it's been long enough. You should know what type of fighter Mayweather is by now. Why should he have taken more chances and increased JMM's chances of pulling a miracle out of his *ss when he was doing fine dominating using all of his skills as a professional boxer? Because you wanted to see a KO right? Neither you or anyone else who is familiar with Mayweather as a fighter should be surprised by his approach.

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