Did Manny duck Mayweather when he put the weight penalty in the contract?

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

If Martinez tells Floyd, hey lets fight at 154. If Floyd wants to fight Paul Williams, and P-Will says yea I will fight Floyd and I will go down to 147. You think Floyd will say no no no lets fight at 154 or 160? Be honest with this answer...

And, do you remember how much heat Oscar got for picking on "little" Pacquiao? Do you not remember how many people were calling Oscar names for fighting Pac at 147? What do you think he would of gotten for fight Pac at 154? Were you watching boxing around this time? Be honest with me?

Anyways if Oscar would of said fight me at 154 or no fight. Then we honestly don't know if Roach would accept it or refuse it... What you saying it is not facts, you think he would of refuse it and that is fine that is your opinion. But, we would never know. The truth is that it is very rare somebody turning down Oscar. Especially since he was the cash cow at the time. And, Pac didn't have the status that he has now. To even make demands. And, truth is Pac cave in to every Oscar demand there was. Except for the split and that is it. Oscar chose the weight cuz he would of gotten ridiculed for fighting Pac at 154. But, even if they would of fought at 154 I would not have been surprise if Pac would of won. Because, Oscar was really done at that point. He was a partime fighter fulltime promoter...

The Oscar that fought Floyd is very underrated.

He wouldve beat alot of WW's that night.

[Pacquiao'd]

Emotion has nothing to do with my statements about floyd. I call it as I see it. Floyd can change my opinion by whipping Shane,Pac,Margarito,Cotto or Berto. Any 3 of the 5 will do me fine. You see,Im not into hypothetical outcomes in fights. I want to see floyd actually do it. Styles make fights.

haha. Marg, cotto and berto respresent nothing for floyd. beating marg who just got destoryed by shane and shotto who was destoryed by margo means absolutely nothing.

berto? haha, right

[Pacquiao'd]

If Martinez tells Floyd, hey lets fight at 154. If Floyd wants to fight Paul Williams, and P-Will says yea I will fight Floyd and I will go down to 147. You think Floyd will say no no no lets fight at 154 or 160? Be honest with this answer...

And, do you remember how much heat Oscar got for picking on "little" Pacquiao? Do you not remember how many people were calling Oscar names for fighting Pac at 147? What do you think he would of gotten for fight Pac at 154? Were you watching boxing around this time? Be honest with me?

Anyways if Oscar would of said fight me at 154 or no fight. Then we honestly don't know if Roach would accept it or refuse it... What you saying it is not facts, you think he would of refuse it and that is fine that is your opinion. But, we would never know. The truth is that it is very rare somebody turning down Oscar. Especially since he was the cash cow at the time. And, Pac didn't have the status that he has now. To even make demands. And, truth is Pac cave in to every Oscar demand there was. Except for the split and that is it. Oscar chose the weight cuz he would of gotten ridiculed for fighting Pac at 154. But, even if they would of fought at 154 I would not have been surprise if Pac would of won. Because, Oscar was really done at that point. He was a partime fighter fulltime promoter...

they campaign at those weights and floyd doesnt look to beat people on the scale like team pac

so you remember that DLH hadnt made 147 in years and at weigh in he looked like an aids victim? dude was done before getting in the ring.

roach will not allow anyone they fight to have a weight advantage and that is a facts. roach defeats pacs opponents physically befoer they even get into the ring. he doesnt even want them to train without the thought of making weight not being on their mind in the slightest

this is by is own many admissions. dude will not give anyone weight advantages over pac and thats fact. he does not want anyone coming into the ring and healthly with pac

[jrosales13]

The Oscar that fought Floyd is very underrated.

He wouldve beat alot of WW's that night.

I think he was severely overrated...

Matter of fact I think Oscar is the most overrated fighter in the last 10 years not named Zab Judah...

[jrosales13]

they campaign at those weights and floyd doesnt look to beat people on the scale like team pac

so you remember that DLH hadnt made 147 in years and at weigh in he looked like an aids victim? dude was done before getting in the ring.

roach will not allow anyone they fight to have a weight advantage and that is a fight. roach defeats pacs opponents physically befoer they even get into the ring.

this is by is own many admissions. dude will not give anyone weight advantages over pac and thats fact

You do know we talking about Oscar right?

Who turns down Oscar?(Only Winky Wright has) but nobody business man will turn down Oscar...

And, why would Pac or Roach turn down Oscar? Are you honestly this ******? Do you not understand that at the time Pac had nothing to lose? If he won he did something amazing, if he lost he was suppose to... And, he would of gotten the biggest purse of his career up to that point... It would of been his chance to be a crossover star...

It is your opinion that he would of turned it down. But, you do not know that for sure not do you? He could of turned it down or he could of accept it nobody knows but you acting like it is a fact that he would of...

[Pacquiao'd]

You do know we talking about Oscar right?

Who turns down Oscar?(Only Winky Wright has) but nobody business man will turn down Oscar...

And, why would Pac or Roach turn down Oscar? Are you honestly this ******? Do you not understand that at the time Pac had nothing to lose? If he won he did something amazing, if he lost he was suppose to... And, he would of gotten the biggest purse of his career up to that point... It would of been his chance to be a crossover star...

It is your opinion that he would of turned it down. But, you do not know that for sure not do you? He could of turned it down or he could of accept it nobody knows but you acting like it is a fact that he would of...

i didnt know you have to turn down a fight to say, Oscar we rather fight you at 154 so i can show how much better my guy is than you. even at your weight

Roach wouldnt have taken the fight if it was at 154. not when weight is always an issue when pac is involved in a fight...weight is always an issue with them

roach bragged and boasted about Oscar not being able to make 147 so what does that tell you?

[jrosales13]

i didnt know you have to turn down a fight to say, Oscar we rather fight you at 154 so i can show how much better my guy is than you. even at your weight

Roach wouldnt have taken the fight if it was at 154. not when weight is always an issue when pac is involved in a fight...weight is always an issue with them

roach bragged and boasted about Oscar not being able to make 147 so what does that tell you?

Ok,

IF Roach said you Oscar we will fight you at 154 after Oscar said hey I will fight you at 147.

Do you think Oscar would of accept that fight at 154?

[barafranca]

****** thread. So Floyd always has the tendency to cheat weight?

[Pacquiao'd]

Ok,

IF Roach said you Oscar we will fight you at 154 after Oscar said hey I will fight you at 147.

Do you think Oscar would of accept that fight at 154?

i think he would have, hell yeah. at 154 hes comfortable, more comfortable than 147.

im pretty sure DLH was worried about making 147 in the first place but damn sure he didnt know it was going to be that hard for him to get down to 147 and the toll it was going to take on his body

or else he would have never wanted the fight to be at 147

[jrosales13]

i think he would have, hell yeah. at 154 hes comfortable, more comfortable than 147.

im pretty sure DLH was worried about making 147 in the first place but damn sure he didnt know it was going to be that hard for him to get down to 147 and the toll it was going to take on his body

or else he would have never wanted the fight to be at 147

You do know that if Cotto beat Marg he was going to fight Cotto at 147 right?

You do know that Oscar was planning to go down to 147 way before Pac came into the picture right? Why do you think he fought Forbes at 150?

Please don't be unbiased and just think about this for ONE second. When Oscar decided to fight Pac at 147, people saw it as a circus, nobody took it seriously, they thought it was a mismatch in Oscar's favor, people bashed Oscar for "making" Pac go up two weight-classes especially only having 1 fight at 135....

What do you think people would of said if Oscar would of taken Roach 154 offer? If people had so much at 147 what do you think they would of said if it was at 154? And, do you honestly believe Oscar didn't know this? Why would Oscar accept the 154 offer? He would of known what backlash would of came with accepting that and he would of done it...

Just please think about don't let the hatred get the best of you... You were following boxing right around this time? You do remember the negativity with that fight going in right?