Why are people making fun of Valeros death?

[oldgringo]

I dont feel mental illness or addiction should play a factor when deciding how to charge somebody for their criminal actions, but you're expecting a crazy person to act normally and thats not really an option. Killing your wife is a crazy thing to do, guess what he was crazy. If he was right in the head dont you think he would have accepted help? Most murderers are mentally ill it doesnt excuse their actions, but it can help us understand why they did it. There are many psychiatric conditions that make people do things they wouldnt normally do, so chalking it up as well hes a grown man is ridiculous.

Most women are killed by their spouses and often times they (said husbands) ARE NOT mentally ill. Using mental illness as a way of explaining violent crimes like this totally throws accountability out the window. Alcohol, drugs, whatever.

It doesn't work that way. People who aren't, by definition, crazy accept help and people who are do not.....doesn't work that way. This guy was well enough to marry, have children, win professional fights, accept thousands of dollars, provide safety and shelter for others....

The guy was a murderer to put it plainly. He ruined many peoples lives. He's just another low point in the history of the sport and mankind.

[oldgringo]

**** that. I don't go around beating up women and murdering my wife. He was a bastard and he deserved to die like one. That's how the world is. They don't deserve pity in the end because their brain might be a little ****ed up. All of that is speculation anyway. Just like the Chris Benoit thing.

Yeah seems like there are a lot of Terelle Pryor's running around these parts.

[Born2Live]

The guy is simply a piece of ****, murdering his wife & then taking the coward way out of life by committing suicide.

He's got no respect in my book & doesn't deserved R.I.P next to his name by any poster.

His addicition & mental problems have runied his childrens lives forever.

[Spacey1991]

I'm with you. I am not saying Valero was innocent or guitly. But I feel sorry for their kids, I really do.

That and the fact that his wife lost her life for no real reason are the main things... but yeah right now his kids are to think about, this is bigger than Boxing... their kids lost their parents, they're going through a lot.

I don't really know what to make of Valero's actions, he was mentally unstable but that isn't an excuse in my eyes, for example Mike Tyson was a very complicated person mentally as well.

[madsweeney]

What's the point in ridiculing any aspect of a situation like the last month of Valero's life?

Wouldn't you prefer that he'd somehow been able to get his **** together and make his life and his career a success? Then everybody is alive and happy and can live productively.



I dunno what your personal take on Valero was prior to the last month, but a lot of the more extreme stuff I'm seeing is guys who hated his ass even before it emerged he beat on his wife just talking mad ****.

Of course I'd rather hear that he was a success story, not a tragedy. I come from a family that has had its core shaken by alcoholics and wife beaters so yes, I take situations like this very seriously because there is no ****ing excuse in the world that makes someone who betrays his own family like this anything but a POS.

[madsweeney]

Most women are killed by their spouses and often times they (said husbands) ARE NOT mentally ill. Using mental illness as a way of explaining violent crimes like this totally throws accountability out the window. Alcohol, drugs, whatever.

It doesn't work that way. People who aren't, by definition, crazy accept help and people who are do not.....doesn't work that way. This guy was well enough to marry, have children, win professional fights, accept thousands of dollars, provide safety and shelter for others....

The guy was a murderer to put it plainly. He ruined many peoples lives. He's just another low point in the history of the sport and mankind.

LOL he's ready to diagnose him with a small list of mental illnesses and addiction even before he met the guy. Fact of the matter is if Valero was half as sick as this guy suggests, he should have been locked up in a loony bin where he couln't hurt anyone.

[Sweet Pea 50]

Burner, if he wasn't a boxer, would you not consider this dude a piece of ****? I'm no saint myself, but I can sleep at night knowing that I have never two pieced a female.

[AKATheMack]

Most women are killed by their spouses and often times they (said husbands) ARE NOT mentally ill. Using mental illness as a way of explaining violent crimes like this totally throws accountability out the window. Alcohol, drugs, whatever.

It doesn't work that way. People who aren't, by definition, crazy accept help and people who are do not.....doesn't work that way. This guy was well enough to marry, have children, win professional fights, accept thousands of dollars, provide safety and shelter for others....

The guy was a murderer to put it plainly. He ruined many peoples lives. He's just another low point in the history of the sport and mankind.

So as an alternative to accepting that mental illness does sometimes play a factor in violent crimes we pretend that everyone is created equal and mental illness doesnt exist in society? History is full of criminals who could put on a normal front it doesnt change the fact they were crazy. A local serial killer by the name on Dennis Rader was a Deacon at the church, held a job and had a family it doesnt change the fact he was a nut job.

[Kagami Taiga]

he may have been mentally ill but he wasnt insane. an insane person doesnt realize the gravity of the crimes he commits. he doesnt kill his wife, then confess to it only to hang himself later. all that points to valero having some idea of what he did when he was drunk out of his mind on whatever he was taking.

that begs to question, if he knew all that alcohol and drugs made him such a violent person, why go around the person you love the most in the world?? i dont feel sorry for him. sure he had demons, but he had a chance to seek help and he couldnt bring himself to do it.

[AKATheMack]

LOL he's ready to diagnose him with a small list of mental illnesses and addiction even before he met the guy. Fact of the matter is if Valero was half as sick as this guy suggests, he should have been locked up in a loony bin where he couln't hurt anyone.

Im open minded about the situation because I havent met the guy. You on the other hand are the one who is 100% sure they are right without meeting him. I believe he deserved to die for his actions, but that doesnt mean Im idiotic enough to believe that crazy people dont do crazy things.