Why are people making fun of Valeros death?

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  • madsweeney
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    #61
    Originally posted by No Ceilings
    Their kids lost their mother and father in a matter of 2 days. Show some damn class scumbags.
    Sigh, Burner on the wrong side of things as usual



    Scumbags like Valero desiver ridicule, his children deserve our sympathy, however, they're most likely alot better off not having to live a life with that man in their lives. As sad and unnecessary as his wife dead was, I question her for keeping her children in that environment.

    Of course we don't know **** about the personal lives but it goes both ways, these may just be isolated incidents that happen to get public attention (last beating and this murder happened outside their homes).

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    • MACAQUEINBLACK
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      #62
      Originally posted by Jack Carter
      you know what would give me satisfaction?

      paying me the $50 you owe me for the cotto-pacquiao fight.
      Hahhhahahaa. I've been expecting you.

      Take back what you said about Cotto being a *****. And the Valero ****. And I will. I still have your details saved to my email, so they must be there for a reason.

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      • Dick Buffman
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        #63
        Originally posted by MAN IN BLACK
        Hahhhahahaa. I've been expecting you.

        Take back what you said about Cotto being a *****. And the Valero ****. And I will. I still have your details saved to my email, so they must be there for a reason.
        keep it.

        the cotto thing is a joke. i like the guy.

        valero is garbage. i ain't taking that back.

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        • AKATheMack
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          #64
          Originally posted by madsweeney
          Mental illness or addiction (this guy was probably an addict, not mentally ill) is no excuse for one's actions. Your wrong, a grown ass man, addict or not, is responsible for their actions and that includes accepting help (as his family has stated they tried in the past). You could argue that almost any murderer is psychotic or mentally ill, does that excuse or lessen what they do just because nobody helped them?
          I dont feel mental illness or addiction should play a factor when deciding how to charge somebody for their criminal actions, but you're expecting a crazy person to act normally and thats not really an option. Killing your wife is a crazy thing to do, guess what he was crazy. If he was right in the head dont you think he would have accepted help? Most murderers are mentally ill it doesnt excuse their actions, but it can help us understand why they did it. There are many psychiatric conditions that make people do things they wouldnt normally do, so chalking it up as well hes a grown man is ridiculous.

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          • MACAQUEINBLACK
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            #65
            Originally posted by madsweeney
            Scumbags like Valero desiver ridicule
            What's the point in ridiculing any aspect of a situation like the last month of Valero's life?

            Wouldn't you prefer that he'd somehow been able to get his **** together and make his life and his career a success? Then everybody is alive and happy and can live productively.



            I dunno what your personal take on Valero was prior to the last month, but a lot of the more extreme stuff I'm seeing is guys who hated his ass even before it emerged he beat on his wife just talking mad ****.

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            • Big Vern
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              #66
              Edwin was obviously in a very dark place. It's not laughing matter.

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              • boxasmash
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                #67
                This isn't the usual domestic violence murder, Valero had known brain damage, drug and alcohol problems.

                Most people who beat up their wives and kill them don't go and kill themselves.

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                • -Antonio-
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by The.Eyetalian
                  Gotta agree wit my dude Ceilings on this one..

                  We don't know Valero's personal life..he was obviously troubled and needed help..too bad he couldn't get it in time..

                  RIP TO MR AND MRS EDWIN VALERO..

                  Side note..there's alot of HORRIBLE people in the world..but we can't judge..because we're full of sin ourselves..no matter how big or small sin is sin..so to all those hypocrites calling him names and praising his death..ur no better than him at the end..truth..
                  **** that. I don't go around beating up women and murdering my wife. He was a bastard and he deserved to die like one. That's how the world is. They don't deserve pity in the end because their brain might be a little ****ed up. All of that is speculation anyway. Just like the Chris Benoit thing.

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                  • MACAQUEINBLACK
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Jack Carter
                    keep it.

                    the cotto thing is a joke. i like the guy.

                    valero is garbage. i ain't taking that back.
                    Nah, I'll sort you out with interest, I've got your details. What can I say, I'm an obnoxious ****, I wanted to see if you'd mention me or get pissy about me holding out on you. FWIW, my motive for betting with you was oblique and slightly Machiavellian (as you know, I was picking Pac to win, anyway), but I intended to honor it in the end, and I shall.



                    You always despised Valero, anyway. And you don't really strike me as the Peter Cetera type, so I gotta just think you're enjoying this moment to piss on the guy's bones when there really is no sense in it. But that's up to you, obviously.

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                    • Irish Hitman
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                      #70
                      Someone shoulda made him go to rehab etc when they had the chance, it is sad to see. But a good sports athlete (especially a boxer) should be able to control their anger, but i dont know how bad his condition was so im just saying it how i see it. RIP Valero!

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