Comments Thread For: Robert Stieglitz Takes a Verbal Shot at Arthur Abraham

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  • Sparked_1985
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    #11
    Originally posted by tourlou82
    I agree.

    But if AA makes some needed adjustments in his style and opens up more early and throws more, Froch will get KO'ed.
    That's the thing.

    I bet every world-title challenger who faced Abraham thought they were going to smash his arse. The dude gives them so much encouragement.....until he knocks them out. I just think Froch's will and physical strength and nasty streak could pose some questions that Arthur hasn't had before.

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    • Tiozzo
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      #12
      Originally posted by SoldierWarrior
      Andrade exposed Stieglitz. Abraham by brutal KO if he takes this step-backwards fight against Stieglitz.
      It is never a good idea to slug with a slugger, and that's exactly what Stieglitz did. The dude has nevertheless good boxing abilities. Yes, AA would ko him, so it could be a good fight for AA (to get a bit of rest) after contesting against the best fighters in the division.

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      • bazookajoe
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        #13
        stieglitz better not duck bute again (if bute gets past miranda of course!)

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        • S.G.
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          #14
          Originally posted by Sparked_1985
          I'm not big on Abraham. But concievably Froch is long enough to keep it an outside fight and strong enough to negate Abraham when he gets in close. And it's the pace that Abraham fights at, Froch won't be taken out of his comfort zone unless he's knocked out.
          Keeping Abraham out of range would probably be his best bet, but I don't see it happening - I don't think Froch possesses the ring generalship. I mean, I don't think Abraham is really this unstoppage wrecking ball he's made out to be sometimes either, but from what I've seen it just seems he's superior to Froch in every way possible outside of ranginess. If Abraham could land on Dirrell at points and even knock him down, I don't think Froch will be able to keep him off him all night. And at least Abraham offers something in the way of defense with his high guard.

          Originally posted by Sparked_1985
          Also Abraham is the one guy who really doesn't possess a style advantage over Froch in the entire tournament. I dunno, just a feeling.
          To be honest I think everyone has a style advantage over Froch because his style is just crap lol. He seems like he's brawling out of a slickster stance sometimes.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Sparked_1985
            That's the thing.

            I bet every world-title challenger who faced Abraham thought they were going to smash his arse. The dude gives them so much encouragement.....until he knocks them out. I just think Froch's will and physical strength and nasty streak could pose some questions that Arthur hasn't had before.
            haha true

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            • Sparked_1985
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              #16
              Originally posted by S.G.
              Keeping Abraham out of range would probably be his best bet, but I don't see it happening - I don't think Froch possesses the ring generalship. I mean, I don't think Abraham is really this unstoppage wrecking ball he's made out to be sometimes either, but from what I've seen it just seems he's superior to Froch in every way possible outside of ranginess. If Abraham could land on Dirrell at points and even knock him down, I don't think Froch will be able to keep him off him all night. And at least Abraham offers something in the way of defense with his high guard.


              To be honest I think everyone has a style advantage over Froch because his style is just crap lol. He seems like he's brawling out of a slickster stance sometimes.
              I'm banking on Abraham being made to feel like a little guy. And who knows, maybe because Froch is so open little Abe might reach in and get clocked repeatedly. That essentially is Froch's game.

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              • Fox McCloud
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                #17
                Not very intelligent Stieglitz. You have lost to the likes of Berrio and Andrade by KO. I can't imagine that your chin is going to hold up to Abraham's huge punches.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Sparked_1985
                  I'm banking on Abraham being made to feel like a little guy. And who knows, maybe because Froch is so open little Abe might reach in and get clocked repeatedly. That essentially is Froch's game.
                  I also think that the body punches will be a factor.

                  Froch is a good body puncher, and in a British ring AA's bitching will be ignored. Froch will land good shots to the body, and when AA tries to complain Froch will just hit him again.

                  Froch also does a good job of firing back whenever his opponent opens up. When AA gets wild and aggressive, I think Froch will land big shots and make AA think twice about that approach.

                  I don't think AA is as tough as Froch, and that might be the key factor.

                  People see Froch as a defenseless pressure fighter, but he's not. If AA does nothing, Froch will just stay outside and jab him. Froch is not highly-skilled, but he fights as if he thinks he can outbox world class opposition rather than breaking them down for a late KO. I think that will work in his favour against AA more than against Kessler.
                  Last edited by Clegg; 04-17-2010, 12:51 PM.

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                  • ragingvic
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                    #19
                    who is robert stieglitz and how does he have a title?

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                    • Fox McCloud
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by ragingvic
                      who is robert stieglitz and how does he have a title?
                      He's like 32-2 or something. He's a good technician, Russian-born, German-based. He beat Allejandro Berrio in an IBF eliminator (the belt Calzgahe vacated that he got from Lacy), and then lost to Berrio in a rematch for the vacant belt (that Bute picked up from beating Berrio consequently).

                      Stieglitz fought on HBO on the Casamayor-Katsidis undercard, against Librado Andrade, getting stopped in 8. It looked a lot like the Andrade-Tsypko fight on Showtime. Those guys just couldn't deal with his pressure.

                      Stieglitz was supposed to be a moderately easy defense for Karoly Balzsay, but he got super winded, and retired in his corner before round 11.

                      That is how Stieglitz got the WBO 168 title.

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