pacman's increase in power (no flamers in here please)...

[loui_ludwig]

So when Cotto, JMM, and others, they got stronger by going up and were draining themselves in their previous weight. But with Pac.........

[Blubba]

Sooooo, Pacquiao built his career fighting smaller men?

yes and no.

Before he moved up in weight, that is true. You only have to look at how ripped he was compared MAB, Marquez and everyone else. The guy was starving himself to fight those men.

****m Richardson was right. Pacquiao aint that small, i don't know why ppl keep saying he's smaller than everyone else. Yes he's a small welter but u can clearly see he was no smaller than Hatton at lightwelter.

Pac has size as an advantage in the lower weights but he also had the disadvantage of starving himself to make weight and only had a great left and no right arm. His defence was non-existance. I think his heart rather than technique won him most of the fights back then.

Now the guy has good defence , can punch with both fist and punching from all kinds of crasy angles with either arm and sick combos. Got to like the guy.

[Pacquiao'd]

yes and no.

Before he moved up in weight, that is true. You only have to look at how ripped he was compared MAB, Marquez and everyone else. The guy was starving himself to fight those men.

****m Richardson was right. Pacquiao aint that small, i don't know why ppl keep saying he's smaller than everyone else. Yes he's a small welter but u can clearly see he was no smaller than Hatton at lightwelter.

Pac has size as an advantage in the lower weights but he also had the disadvantage of starving himself to make weight and only had a great left and no right arm. His defence was non-existance. I think his heart rather than technique won him most of the fights back then.

Now the guy has good defence , dynamite in both fist and punching from all kinds of crasy angles with either arm and sick combos. Got to like the guy.

he stayed in the lower weight classes b.c he want good enough or had to the balls to climb in weight like May did

plain and simple.

he fights smaller guys in the lower weight class, and when he finally moves up to the weight class he should have been in for a while, hes fighting people that are shot

[TheNegation]

Why is it so hard to understand that when you move up in weight you will punch harder.

What the **** is hard to comprehend here? His ability to retain his speed is what's amazing.

Another thing is Pac's technique has improve over the years as well. And better technique= a harder punch.

[Blubba]

Why is it so hard to understand that when you move up in weight you will punch harder.

What the **** is hard to comprehend here? His ability to retain his speed is what's amazing.

Another thing is Pac's technique has improve over the years as well. And better technique= a harder punch.

exactly.someone trains the same but dont need to stave themself anymore to make the fights. they gonna gain more muscle mass and strength. its only logical.

training + surplus of calories = increase in muscle mass.

[Blubba]

he stayed in the lower weight classes b.c he want good enough or had to the balls to climb in weight like May did

plain and simple.

he fights smaller guys in the lower weight class, and when he finally moves up to the weight class he should have been in for a while, hes fighting people that are shot

he stayed at lower weight because he was not good enough, exactly.

his defence back then would have never allowed him to compete at welter. Ppl say he gets hit too much now, back at feather he was getting much more but those guys didnt hit as hard as welters.

I say its a combination of defence/footwork and punching technique that has allowed him to move up, but mostly it's his footwork, which is his main defence and allows him darts in and out. His head movement is still poor.

[Pacquiao'd]

he stayed at lower weight because he was not good enough, exactly.

his defence back then would have never allowed him to compete at welter. Ppl say he gets hit too much now, back at feather he was getting much more but those guys didnt hit as hard as welters.

I say its a combination of defence/footwork and punching technique that has allowed him to move up, but mostly it's his footwork, which is his main defence and allows him darts in and out. His head movement is still poor.

pac has defence? this is news to me

[fightfan_79]

exactly.someone trains the same but dont need to stave themself anymore to make the fights. they gonna gain more muscle mass and strength. its only logical.

training + surplus of calories = increase in muscle mass.

Diddn't work for JMM why...training + drinking pee = ????

[Blubba]

he stayed in the lower weight classes b.c he want good enough or had to the balls to climb in weight like May did

plain and simple.

he fights smaller guys in the lower weight class, and when he finally moves up to the weight class he should have been in for a while, hes fighting people that are shot

pac has defence? this is news to me

yeah its more of his footwork that he uses for his so called defence, lateral movement . Something he never had at 130 and below.

[Blubba]

Diddn't work for JMM why...training + drinking pee = ????

jmm is naturally a 130 pounder thats why. he never had to kill himself to make those weight, so going up must have been difficult for him carrying all that extra baggage at 144. he shouldnt even be at 135.