Why the criticism over berto Flaws but

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Struggle? maybe, lose? no.

Even if Collazo has the stylistic advantages over Pacquiao, he doesn't have the tools to implement them well enough to beat Pacquiao.

Thats fine. Im just saying he would struggle and not look good against him.

Thats why i dont think berto needs all this heat. I cant believe hes getting flack for knocking Quintana the **** out.

[Clegg]

When did I overrate Collazo? I simply said he was a slick lefty. I never called him great. Im making the point that hes hard to look good against. Would you agree?

No, I wouldn't. Mosley dominated Collazo.

Anyway, Berto is still considered green even up to the Mosley-Berto stuff he was still called green.

The question is about his flaws, not about whether or not he's green. If his flaws are because he's green then cool, but that doesn't mean they don't exist.

So you are saying styles dont make fights? When you say Collazo and Q were just good. The slick southpaw style played a role. Why do you think Lennox Lewis never fought a lefty?

This is just a silly excuse. Plenty of guys look good against southpaws. Cotto destroyed Quintana and looked fantastic doing it.

There are some guys who struggle with slick fighters, sure. But I think the issue here is that Quintana and Collazo are the only quality opponents Berto has faced, not that they are the only skilled southpaws.

Even with a weight advantage, Berto was less impressive against Urango than Hatton was. Why? Because of quality, not because of style.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

No, I wouldn't. Mosley dominated Collazo.



The question is about his flaws, not about whether or not he's green. If his flaws are because he's green then cool, but that doesn't mean they don't exist.



This is just a silly excuse. Plenty of guys look good against southpaws. Cotto destroyed Quintana and looked fantastic doing it.

There are some guys who struggle with slick fighters, sure. But I think the issue here is that Quintana and Collazo are the only quality opponents Berto has faced, not that they are the only skilled southpaws.

Even with a weight advantage, Berto was less impressive against Urango than Hatton was. Why? Because of quality, not because of style.

So you pick one fight Mosley-Collazo and based that on him being easy to look good against? Wow lets just say I whole heartedly disagree. Just because Mosley did it doesnt mean Berto would look the same way. Like honestly I cant believe you compared a vet like Shane to a green Berto. But anywho..

Yes Cotto destroyed Quintana. But Judah had him on ***** street in the first round and was taggig him until the low blows came. Im saying every fight is different. There is a reason no one likes watching Cory Spinks. Hes hard to look good against. Spinks could make Floyd bad.

You can say its the quality of the opposition. I'll say its both. They are the best fighters he fought but those fighters also happen to be slick lefties. Guys that everyone doesnt look good against. Which again is why Lennox Lewis said he would never fight a lefty. It was for a reason.

[DR.ORGYY]

no criticism over Roidquiao flaws?Roidquiao has way more Flaws then Berto but Berto gets hated but Roidquiao is seen as god.


As soon as Roidquiao fights a highly skilled fighter he`ll lose a one sided fight.

oh really??? manny would beat the **** out of berto and would literally put him in the hospital..

[ThePlugInBabies]

I think the fact that Quintana and Collazo are slick southpaws played a roll.

Not to mention the tragedy and the 11 month layoff Berto Had.

He gets alot of heat for how he looks vs slick boxers when Pac never fights any.

lulzy at collazo being slick, jesus. even hatton had no problem scoring on him.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

lulzy at collazo being slick, jesus. even hatton had no problem scoring on him.

So Collazo isnt a slick fighter? Wow.

[DR.ORGYY]

So Collazo isnt a slick fighter? Wow.

na man i gotta agree with you on this one collazo is a very good fighter.....but berto has no chance against pac and u no it....

[ThePlugInBabies]

So Collazo isnt a slick fighter? Wow.

no he isn't. being a southpaw does not by default make you 'slick' which is what you seem to be entirely hanging your hat on here to qualify him as such.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

no he isn't. being a southpaw does not by default make you 'slick' which is what you seem to be entirely hanging your hat on here to qualify him as such.

Williams is a southpaw and I never called him slick.

Have you ever seen Collazo fight? Honestly.

[DR.ORGYY]

Williams is a southpaw and I never called him slick.

Have you ever seen Collazo fight? Honestly.

collazo is pretty slick...but honestly quintana aint really slick.......