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  • #51
    There are alot of different stratagies that I see being discussed here, but one of the key things that I have not seen anyone touch on is the jab to the body. This is a very important punch that a Boxer must employ if he wants to stop the lateral movement of his opponent. Shane's tendency to load up and head hunt will hurt him against Floyd, as well as the fact that Shane also tends to leave his feet when he delivers these power punches, both of these things do not boade well for Shane.

    Now Floyd however does jab to the body and he does it "effectively". This is going to keep Shane off balance, and make him reset as Shane can only fight coming forward and with his feet set. Someone earlier elluded to Shane's footwork asking if he had bad footwork or was he just slowing down because of age as well as the lack of proper bend in his knees as he throws his shots; another poster answered that Shane has to be set to deliver his powers shots. This is very true, and as the responding poster said that the power is coming from the legs and hips, this is also true, but Shane not having the proper bend in his knees IS taking away from his power and also leaves him with no way to pivot or slip anything that returns from his opponent. That my friends is bad news, and the reason why it is bad news is that Shane has a habit of using his hands to avoid punches. This is NOT what you want to do against Floyd, as you are just giving him your body to shoot the "jab to the body or the straight right" that he likes to shoot as he is moving out of postion. This small detail will be the catalysis to a shocking Boxing clinic put on by Floyd if Shane does not pay close attention to his(Shane) Boxing habits, as well as if he does not make adjustments. Shane's speed, power, and ring IQ is what gives him a great chance at beating Floyd, but Shane's bad habits coupled with his low emotional resiliency threshold(which gets Shane off of the gameplan) will outweigh his attributes.

    I leave ya'll with a parting thought though. If both fighters had to fight this fight without any seconds(trainer, cutman, ect....), who would you pick?????????????

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    • #52
      Only a southpaw can beat floyd. That's my philosophy. Thats why Floyd didnt want none of cotto when cotto was still like the terminator cuz cotto has a phenominal jab and is a very rough fighter who switches stances alot. That is why floyd didnt want none of pac, cuz pac is a southpaw with alot of speed and power. At this time and moment, I believe pac is the only one capable of beating floyd since Cotto's possibly too damaged already. Well for me, both pac and floyd dont want none of each other. I got floyd over mosley. Mosley over pac, and pac over floyd.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by fats View Post
        I'll just bet a dollar-to-a-doughnut that some of Mosley's opponents from the last few years went into the ring and down to the mat with that same line of thought. Although, only a shadow of his former self he's still (conservatively) one of the top 4 boxers at any weight class today.
        The problem with that is all Mosley's past opponents in the last 5-6 years weren't nearly equivalent to the best P4P fighter in the world. The last P4P fighter Shane fought was Winky. This will be a huge jump in recent competition for Shane.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by jtiger78 View Post
          whats pac got to do wit this post?
          C'mon Son! LOL. Now you know you more than likely wont get a valid answer back on that one right?

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          • #55
            Originally posted by fats View Post
            I'll just bet a dollar-to-a-doughnut that some of Mosley's opponents from the last few years went into the ring and down to the mat with that same line of thought. Although, only a shadow of his former self he's still (conservatively) one of the top 4 boxers at any weight class today.
            I agree.................

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Chief2ndzOnly! View Post
              There are alot of different stratagies that I see being discussed here, but one of the key things that I have not seen anyone touch on is the jab to the body. This is a very important punch that a Boxer must employ if he wants to stop the lateral movement of his opponent. Shane's tendency to load up and head hunt will hurt him against Floyd, as well as the fact that Shane also tends to leave his feet when he delivers these power punches, both of these things do not boade well for Shane.

              Now Floyd however does jab to the body and he does it "effectively". This is going to keep Shane off balance, and make him reset as Shane can only fight coming forward and with his feet set. Someone earlier elluded to Shane's footwork asking if he had bad footwork or was he just slowing down because of age as well as the lack of proper bend in his knees as he throws his shots; another poster answered that Shane has to be set to deliver his powers shots. This is very true, and as the responding poster said that the power is coming from the legs and hips, this is also true, but Shane not having the proper bend in his knees IS taking away from his power and also leaves him with no way to pivot or slip anything that returns from his opponent. That my friends is bad news, and the reason why it is bad news is that Shane has a habit of using his hands to avoid punches. This is NOT what you want to do against Floyd, as you are just giving him your body to shoot the "jab to the body or the straight right" that he likes to shoot as he is moving out of postion. This small detail will be the catalysis to a shocking Boxing clinic put on by Floyd if Shane does not pay close attention to his(Shane) Boxing habits, as well as if he does not make adjustments. Shane's speed, power, and ring IQ is what gives him a great chance at beating Floyd, but Shane's bad habits coupled with his low emotional resiliency threshold(which gets Shane off of the gameplan) will outweigh his attributes.

              I leave ya'll with a parting thought though. If both fighters had to fight this fight without any seconds(trainer, cutman, ect....), who would you pick?????????????


              I totally agree. it will come down to who can when without their corner and beyond a doubt that's Floyd hands down. One thing Floyd is good at is taking the corner out of the fight and if you can't deal with that you become another victim.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by BadBrains View Post
                Only a southpaw can beat floyd. That's my philosophy. Thats why Floyd didnt want none of cotto when cotto was still like the terminator cuz cotto has a phenominal jab and is a very rough fighter who switches stances alot. That is why floyd didnt want none of pac, cuz pac is a southpaw with alot of speed and power. At this time and moment, I believe pac is the only one capable of beating floyd since Cotto's possibly too damaged already. Well for me, both pac and floyd dont want none of each other. I got floyd over mosley. Mosley over pac, and pac over floyd.

                First of all do some research then you'll know why PBF/Cotto never happened and it certainly wasn't because of Floyd and if your eluding to Pacroid I wish he and his people believed in him like you do because then he would've submitted to testing and we would be past his ass all together.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by switchsouthpaw View Post
                  It's not a trap that Roger is setting for Mosley, he is speaking the truth in this case, which is rare even for him. The jab is the only way to unlocking that box (shoulder roll), except not all jabs work on the lock, damn near takes a skeleton key.
                  I think Floyd will time Mosely and use Mosely's jab as a distance marker.

                  Mosely best way to win is by outworking Mayweather. He has slightly slower speed, wider shots and power. If he can muster up lots of workrate and accuracy, and also be hot from round 1, he can get a UD, however he doesn't have the legs, or even the age to do it.

                  To do that you gotta match Floyd is all the aspects, and only one guy for me is close for all of that.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
                    Thing is most of the time he throws the jab its lazy and uninspired. Floyd will see his jab coming a mile a way and make him pay. Hell Cotto was timing Shanes jab.
                    His jab is not lazy. its quick rapid fire, and pitty pat, same way Muhammad Ali used it.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by !! Shawn View Post
                      His jab is not lazy. its quick rapid fire, and pitty pat, same way Muhammad Ali used it.

                      Man you gotta be ****ing kidding comparing Shane's jab to Ali's? Dude where did you come from? Please go back with that ridiculous bull****! I wish I had nicer words for you but your delusional with that one. That **** aint even funny.

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