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  • JAB5239
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    #11
    Originally posted by loui_ludwig
    Was Holyfield with Roach during the Evans Field case?

    If Roach train Liddel, then its only for stand up. Liddell has his own trainer/team in MMA.
    Exactly. Scratch Liddell. Half the list is gone and no one can answer questions on the other half.

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    • JAB5239
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      #12
      Originally posted by The Hate Giver
      what's happening is the same thing the **********s tried to do to barack ***** & jeremiah wright & ayers.

      Like i said before, i doubt any of those fighters were on the juice WHILE roach was training them.

      What is happening now is the propaganda machinations of the *****s working overtime to paint & roach as some steroid trainer.
      I was thinking the same thing minus the political "blah, blah, blah" you started out with.

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      • Rolling Stone
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        #13
        you know what can end all this discussion????

        if Pacquiao agrees to random blood testing like Mosley did........Mosley has the balls to say, "i'll do whatever the **** it takes to get you're arse in the ring so i can beat you down".

        Pacquiao refused, opted to file a law suit and than claims mayweather is making excuses not to fight him...wtf??? than he claims he wants to beat Mayweather 'in the worst way'........well if you were that damn pissed at Mayweather why didn't you do what Shane did in 1 second.......just say yes......Mayweather said yes to ur bull**** $10 mill. per pound

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        • JAB5239
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          #14
          Originally posted by Rolling Stone
          you know what can end all this discussion????

          if Pacquiao agrees to random blood testing like Mosley did........Mosley has the balls to say, "i'll do whatever the **** it takes to get you're arse in the ring so i can beat you down".

          Pacquiao refused, opted to file a law suit and than claims mayweather is making excuses not to fight him...wtf??? than he claims he wants to beat Mayweather 'in the worst way'........well if you were that damn pissed at Mayweather why didn't you do what Shane did in 1 second.......just say yes......Mayweather said yes to ur bull**** $10 mill. per pound
          I thought Pac should have taken the 14 day cutoff, but that isn't what my issue is here, my man. People are trying to make it sound like Roach is/was training all these steroid users yet no one wants to supply actual proof of this. That is my beef.

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          • The Hate Giver
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            #15
            Originally posted by JAB5239
            I was thinking the same thing minus the political "blah, blah, blah" you started out with.
            you must be a **********. Just wanted to use an example. But this whole steroid accusation is straight out of a political hatchet man's handbook.

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            • Rolling Stone
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              #16
              Originally posted by JAB5239
              I thought Pac should have taken the 14 day cutoff, but that isn't what my issue is here, my man. People are trying to make it sound like Roach is/was training all these steroid users yet no one wants to supply actual proof of this. That is my beef.
              well thats ****ing ******....why would Roach supply his boxers with steroids??? sure Toney and a few others took that ****, Roach ain't got nothing to do with it

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              • JAB5239
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                #17
                Originally posted by The Hate Giver
                you must be a **********. Just wanted to use an example. But this whole steroid accusation is straight out of a political hatchet man's handbook.
                I am politic free my friend. I'd rather argue about how fast grass grows than talk about anything political. You made a good point though.

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                • BrushMyCage
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                  #18
                  megan fox is overrated

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                  • The Hate Giver
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by JAB5239
                    I am politic free my friend. I'd rather argue about how fast grass grows than talk about anything political. You made a good point though.


                    Early in his political career, the young Lyndon Baines Johnson served as a congressional aide to Rep. Richard Kleberg, the wealthy owner of the King Ranch who was elected to seven consecutive terms in the House of Representatives, at least in part because he often ran unopposed.

                    One year an upstart rival politician we'll call Joe Bob had the temerity to challenge Kleberg in the ********ic primary, resulting in the convocation of the Texas congressman's staff to plot an election strategy. Several ideas were kicked around before Kleberg himself came up with a brainstorm.

                    "Why don't we start a rumor that he [copulates with] sheep?" proposed the politician.

                    This was a bit over the top, even for Lyndon Johnson. The future president leapt to his feet and said, incredulously, "But you know Joe Bob don't [copulate with] sheep!"



                    "Yeah," replied the congressman, "but watch what happens when the son of a ***** has to stand up and deny it!"


                    Look at what happened to Pacquiao. Straight out of the play book.

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                    • JAB5239
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Rolling Stone
                      well thats ****ing ******....why would Roach supply his boxers with steroids??? sure Toney and a few others took that ****, Roach ain't got nothing to do with it
                      Thats what Im saying too. But Many of Floyds fans feel the need to make up this conspiracy because Pac didn't take the test. Out of the list from the first o=post I've already dispelled 5 of the names. The remaining one I just don't know and was asking for proof in the other thread only to be put on ignore when no one could give me an answer.

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