Rebuttal thread

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In regards to this thread...Other than James Toney - Who happens to be one of my all-time faves...The list is mis-leading at best...It implies that Roach is directly aligned with steroid using athletes, therefore Pac must be a steroid using athlete...Which is wrong on so many levels...Those athletes might have steroid abusing backgrounds but I highly doubt that Roach advised them to use of PEDS as his means of getting prepared to fight...

Roach was aware of Toney's steroid use but claimed it was used for some medical reason...The sketchy part about that is the type of steroid that was used - STANZABOL (SP).

To stay on point...The Roach/Toney/Steroid association in an of itself isn't enough to warrant Pac taking the random OST's but that along with Pac, Ariza and Arums statements regarding whether or not to take the tests make him look very suspect in the very least...

...and unfourtunately for Pac it's a very slippery slope from supect to guilty...

I don't think he taking PED's but he is being poorly advised...

...and at this point I say take the tests, pass them, fight and let the chip fall where they may.

Peace Mo!

Excellent post!! Green k will be coming once I've reloaded.

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is this the list horus did? i mean horus from the get ur fact radio but dont uses fact.

he included liddel and ortiz which were under john hackleman's the pit. roach has just recently trained ortiz for his fight against griffin, then all of a sudden roach has something to do with his roids usage.

was waiting for horus the fact crusader to enlighten me when i ask that..but it seems that when in this forum when u cant answer the argue facing u. just ignore it until its forgotten.