Why do people think a slick boxer will beat Pacquiao?

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  • flexxx145
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    #71
    For me it's because Pac may have won titles in 7 div but he didn't face the toughest competition when he did. It seems like he never fights anyone who can outbox him. At 140lb's he beat a already exposed Hatton and at 147lbs an already cement destroyed Cotto. Why not Bradley at 140 and Mosley at 147? Both were calling out Pacman. Plus his last couple of opponents have been basically the same fighter, slow, flat-footed, weight drained zombies. Once you see it once it's no fun seeing it again and again. Anyway I hope they get something worked out for a PBF vs Pac fight.

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      #72
      Originally posted by No Ceilings
      I think Vernon Forrest and Paul Williams beat him. Winky too.

      I dont think Pac beats him though. I think sometimes we forget just how good Floyd really is in the ring hes not to be ****ed with.
      I think Floyd beats Paul Williams. That was another opinion that everybody hopped on, that Williams is the only guy who will beat him if they fight.

      Then the QUintana thing happened, where the Rican sticked and moved and boxed the Fro-hawk off his head. A fluke? Perhaps, he got the Ko. But then he goes in and faces a similar fighter in Martinez and is in the battle of his career.

      Floyd is a better boxer than both Quintana & Martinez and can follow their blue print and beat him even better. As far as Floyd vs Winky, no comment.

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        #73
        I mean what am I supposed to think when even Roach admits that ODLH was an easy win because he was weight drained?

        Hatton and Cotto were already damaged goods that tried to rush back too early IMO.

        Clottey was tailor made for Pacs style. Next up a plaster-less flat footed Margaritto?

        Thanks, but I'll pass on watching that one.

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          #74
          Originally posted by flexxx145
          I mean what am I supposed to think when even Roach admits that ODLH was an easy win because he was weight drained?

          Hatton and Cotto were already damaged goods that tried to rush back too early IMO.

          Clottey was tailor made for Pacs style. Next up a plaster-less flat footed Margaritto?

          Thanks, but I'll pass on watching that one.
          See how good Pacquiao has gotten. This post is the perfect example.

          He has become so phenomenal that the standards have been raised in what he has to do to earn some "fans" respect.

          3 years ago, you wouldn't even be thinking that he'd beat any of these welterweights, no matter what you think of them...whether they're B-level, weight drained, damaged good, flat-footed plaster-hands... whatever.

          The fact is, lil Pacquiao looked like he was headed along the lines of MOrales, Barrera and the likes, and create a legacy in the Featherweight landscape. But he is soo much more than that now.

          And that explains the Steroids theories, I.E. "no way he could've done all this naturally", from Malignaggie
          Last edited by cupocity303; 04-11-2010, 09:42 PM.

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            #75
            Originally posted by No Ceilings
            Floyd Mayweather is the perfect, elusive, defensive, slick, counter puncher that can beat Pac.

            When you watch Pac struggle in the first round of the Cotto fight due to Cotto jabbing and boxing him then you watch the JMM fight were Pac looked confused by JMM's counter punching its easy to see why we people think a slick fighter will beat him.

            Also he hasnt shown us that he can beat a fighter who wont come right at him yet.
            cotto throws a lot more punches than floyd. floyd will not be that aggressive. floyd will go into potshot mode and once pac lands a hard left hand or hard right hook floyd will be running for the rest of the fight.

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              #76
              Originally posted by flexxx145
              For me it's because Pac may have won titles in 7 div but he didn't face the toughest competition when he did. It seems like he never fights anyone who can outbox him. At 140lb's he beat a already exposed Hatton and at 147lbs an already cement destroyed Cotto. Why not Bradley at 140 and Mosley at 147? Both were calling out Pacman. Plus his last couple of opponents have been basically the same fighter, slow, flat-footed, weight drained zombies. Once you see it once it's no fun seeing it again and again. Anyway I hope they get something worked out for a PBF vs Pac fight.
              who was better than
              Sasakul at 112
              Ledwaba at 122
              Barrerra at 126
              Marquez at 130
              Hatton at 140
              Cotto at 147

              I mean seriously some of you guys are just reaching. What even dumber is that you would make a comment like that when most of those bouts were dubbed as lineal bouts. You do know what lineal means and why a bout is declared that?

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                #77
                Originally posted by cupocity303
                See how good Pacquiao has gotten. This post is the perfect example.

                He has become so phenomenal that the standards have been raised in what he has to do to earn some "fans" respect.

                3 years ago, you wouldn't even be thinking that he'd beat any of these welterweights, no matter what you think of them...whether they're B-level, weight drained, damaged good, flat-footed plaster-hands... whatever.

                The fact is, lil Pacquiao looked like he was headed along the lines of MOrales, Barrera and the likes, and create a legacy in the Featherweight landscape. But he is soo much more than that now.

                And that explains the Steroids theories, I.E. "no way he could've done all this naturally", from Malignaggie
                I never said Pacman was a bum. I just don't think he will beat Mosley, PBF, PW, or even Bradley at 140lbs. I have respect for Manny as a boxer. His fanatical extremist fans on the other hand need to kill themselves.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Pullcounter
                  cotto throws a lot more punches than floyd. floyd will not be that aggressive. floyd will go into potshot mode and once pac lands a hard left hand or hard right hook floyd will be running for the rest of the fight.
                  Yes because when Floyd gets hits hard he runs.


                  What Floyd fight have you watched where hes done that?

                  I think you are mistaking him for the damaged Cotto Pac fought.

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                    #79
                    Marquez wasn't quicker and didn't have better handspeed but gave Pac trouble...

                    Pac may unleash flurries but a defensive fighter will block some of these flurries...Pac doesn't knock guys out with one shot really, he breaks them down first...

                    If Pac fights someone who boxes and moves his output will definently drop and I think it will throw him off cuz he isn't used to having to find his opponents...and if the opponent is good at countering it'll spell more trouble...

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                    • flexxx145
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
                      who was better than
                      Sasakul at 112
                      Ledwaba at 122
                      Barrerra at 126
                      Marquez at 130
                      Hatton at 140
                      Cotto at 147

                      I mean seriously some of you guys are just reaching. What even dumber is that you would make a comment like that when most of those bouts were dubbed as lineal bouts. You do know what lineal means and why a bout is declared that?
                      Come on dude, your saying an already exposed Hatton and beat down Cotto were better opponents than Bradley and Mosley?

                      If so that's your opinion. I picked Pacman to destroy both those guys easily before the fights because I knew they were damaged goods. Anybody who is more than a casual fan knew both those guys were coming back to soon against a speedy brawler. I'm not overly awed at all by those wins. Let's see who Pac fights next though his career is far from over. If it's Margacheato I'm skipping that one. I wasted enough time on the Clottey fight.

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