Do people think Paul Williams will look dumb if Martinez beats Pavlik?

[Iceta Lives]

Before he does anything he will be rematching Pavlik. You can believe that.

He will be fighting in the US.

There's not a rematch claus in the Martinez-Pavlik fight. Pavlik didn't enforce it.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

I got a serious question for you, Burner.

How do you think Goosen has done promoting Williams' career? I ask this because Williams has never really developed a fan base. The man has fought mostly out in the West, despite being from the South. Everyone knows that his fight with Winky drew poorly. Don't you think that fight would've done better if both men had fought in say, Florida, closer to both of their hometowns? Do you think if he fought more down there, he'd be a bigger attraction?

Hes from South Carolina and has set up shop in Atlanta but they are getting in where they fit in. Whenever HBO has a night you can usually see Paul. Even on PPV's like the Floyd-Baldi undercard. Wherever HBO is is where Paul will be staying in Georgia fighting bums wont get him anywhere. They got him traveling the US and fighting people. His time is coming.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

If Martinez beats Pavlik and is the lineal champion at MW, him vs. PWill will probably be 50-50.

Pauls still not a huge name. And Martinez is slowly but surely making himself an HBO fighter/attraction.

Thats fine. There is no money in a Martinez-Williams fight anyway. They last fought in front of 3,000 people. Wherever Haymon and HBO want this fight is where it will be Martinez is in no place to call shots.

[Spray_resistant]

LOL yeah Sergio could take the belt and run to Argentina or whatever, but he's going to make zero money. I mean, he'll make enough to live like a king in Argentina, but good luck making real money. Boxing is about opponents and fan appeal, not belts. Plus HBO ain't going to Argentina.

Well there aren't exactly ppl lining up to fight Paul and he doesn't have all of the best options in the world so if Martinez won he would be Paul's best option and seeing as this is such Sergio could sway thing more in his favor with location and purse compared to their 1st fight.

If he doesn't like what Paul's camp is offering he could rematch Pavlik if that fight goes well for him the 1st time.......or maybe make some $$$ off that bum JCC jr. and even Duddy maybe....both fights should be easy wins for him.

[Shadows]

Hes from South Carolina and has set up shop in Atlanta but they are getting in where they fit in. Whenever HBO has a night you can usually see Paul. Even on PPV's like the Floyd-Baldi undercard. Wherever HBO is is where Paul will be staying in Georgia fighting bums wont get him anywhere.

I'm not saying he should be fighting bums in GA or SC. I'm talking about what holding something like the Cintron fight somewhere down there.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

There's not a rematch claus in the Martinez-Pavlik fight. Pavlik didn't enforce it.

I find this hard to believe. I guess I'll look it up. No way Arum would let that fight happen without a rematch clause. If it goes to the cards Martinez will get robbed anyway vs. Pavlik.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

I'm not saying he should be fighting bums in GA or SC. I'm talking about what holding something like the Cintron fight somewhere down there.

Oh okay I see what you mean. It was suppose to be in AC but got moved to Cali why i dont remember.

I think if they started out from jump street giving him hometown fights then it would work. Some fights in FL, SC, ATL, etc..

[Iceta Lives]

I find this hard to believe. I guess I'll look it up. No way Arum would let that fight happen without a rematch clause. If it goes to the cards Martinez will get robbed anyway vs. Pavlik.

Like he did againt Williams and Cintron?

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Like he did againt Williams and Cintron?

Im talking about Pavlik. Cintron and Williams arent top rank fighters. Pavlik is. Im saying it doesnt make since for Arum to let Pav fight Martinez without a rematch clause. Pav is Arums fighter.

[Crazylegs77]

And the reason I ask that is because if that happens Martinez is gonna take a lot of shine away from Paul Williams in my view. Sure it will make people think more highly of Paul's abilities as a fighter. But I don't see any other big fight out there for Paul Williams besides Pavlik and a Martinez rematch. I don't see of how Martinez gives him the same deal as the last time they fought when that happens.

Just more of an example of how Paul's career is at a stand still because of Goosen. He gets paid decent from fight to fight. But he'll never break into the mainstream unless he becomes a recognized champ in a weight class. That's what Martinez is gonna do if he ends up beating Pavlik. It will take food off Paul's table pretty much. I think Pavlik would've went through with the fight if Williams and Goosen had been more flexible with the money split. Sure these guys like Burner can complain about how much Williams lost while they were scheduled to fight him. But at the end of the day, it's probably gonna be Martinez with those belts around his waist. Not Williams.

I like Paul Williams. But I think some of his most hardcore fans like Burner fail to see how ****** Williams is gonna look after this weekend. I think he would've beaten Pavlik like Martinez is going to.

He already took the shine off of Williams when he dropped him and hurt him repeatedly and pretty much outboxed him until he got tired.

Paul should have taken the Pavlik fight, he got too greedy and allowed Martinez to gain the spotlight. Either way though both Pavlik and Martinez indicated they want to fight Williams so he will have a chance to make his own statement at a later time most likely even if he loses the Cintron fight.