WADA: The only experts on PED's say about HGH........

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Well let Manny come forth and prove us wrong if he has the balls.

Have some f**kin' basic common sense. If so and so is really taking PEDs, and was offered a multi-million dollar contract, but had to take OST's, do you not think i'd be easy to just drop whatever he's been doin' and collect his f**kin' $$$

The funny thing is, y'all say, well, he's a multi-millionaire and he can afford the best PEDs in the world, well I'm pretty sure, that a multi-millionaire can easily flush his system out. In fact, what I'm sayin' is backed by Victor Conte, he stated, that most PEDs clear out in a matter of hours and a few just takes several days(3-4 days).

Do you not think that would be a piece of cake for PAC to do, all he gotta do is either **** it out or p*ss it out, lmao, collect his paycheck and laugh at y'all.

Let me ask you this, you, yes you, you can look at the mirror while reading this at the same time. If I told you that you would be making enough $$$ that would feed you, your children and their children for the rest of their stinkin' lives, but, you're currently on PEDs, and you had months to clear out your system, would you do it ?

The reality of it is, this whole idea for OST in boxing is not really random. Why, because it's not year-round, you know exactly the timeframe you're gonna be tested. So, with that info, you would know when to stop taking PEDs. And for millions of dollars, would I really give a f**k if I won or not, as long as that check f**kin' clears.

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Have some f**kin' basic common sense. If so and so is really taking PEDs, and was offered a multi-million dollar contract, but had to take OST's, do you not think i'd be easy to just drop whatever he's been doin' and collect his f**kin' $$$

The funny thing is, y'all say, well, he's a multi-millionaire and he can afford the best PEDs in the world, well I'm pretty sure, that a multi-millionaire can easily flush his system out. In fact, what I'm sayin' is backed by Victor Conte, he stated, that most PEDs clear out in a matter of hours and a few just takes several days(3-4 days).

Do you not think that would be a piece of cake for PAC to do, all he gotta do is either **** it out or p*ss it out, lmao.

That's where the random part comes in guy...

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That's where the random part comes in guy...

re-read my post again, I added some more...

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re-read my post again, I added some more...

That's why they need to implement it permanently so that they can do it year round. They already to urine testing year round but not like WADA protocols. OST takes it to another level. I suggest you go to the WADA website and read what the real experts have to say. Instead of making up crap.

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That's why they need to implement it permanently so that they can do it year round. They already to urine testing year round but not like WADA protocols. OST takes it to another level. I suggest you go to the WADA website and read what the real experts have to say. Instead of making up crap.

LMAO, what am I making up,lol ?

And, who gives a ****, the fact is, that if PAC and Phony Boy would've agreed on OST, it wouldn't have been random, cause A) IT's not year-round B) Whether it was 24 days or 14 days, you still have that window of opportunity to cheat, so Phony Boy's great idea of 14 days would've defeated the purpose of OST.

[Khalid X]

First of all Growth Hormone is not a steroid. It's combination of 191 amino acids, that when used, basically forces the body to produce IGF-1.

Secondly, HGH, used by itself, from a performance enhancing standpoint is close to useless. HGH is better stacked with tradtional AAS.

The only real benefit anyone would experience from using HGH is dramatically decreased recovery time from strenuous activity, faster healing from injuries etc.

It doesn't grant you with Tyson-esg knockout power or Roy Jones Jr reflexes and speed.

It doesn't improve your ability to take a punch.

It doesn't make you a better boxer.

So in short, HGH is uselss by itself.

Lastly, just because the nerds at USADA say they can blood tests are more "suitable", doesn't mean that whoever is taking is will automatically fail a test, USADA and Anti-Doping squads will always be a step behind. That's the way it will always be. There are ALWAYS ways to get around testing.

Owned!!!!!!!!!!!

In all honesty this dude just kicked some serious knowledge. I find it comical that these flamers post article n **** and have no idea what they are talking about...lol

In all honesty....how many people on here know that HGH is a harmone the body naturally produces itself? How many people on this site know that everyone has HGH in their body? Just curious because this is pretty basic knowledge IMO...yet I'm sure alot of you flamers don't know but you post articles etc like you guys are some type of experts on it.

[Khalid X]

This has nothing to do with defending Pac. I'm just tired of people trying to talk about steroids like they know what they are talking about, and in the process screwing it up for people who actually have legitimate use for them.


It's people like you, that are the reason steroids and get a bad rap and the reason people with HIV and AIDS have such a hard time getting ahold of them legally to treat themselves.

It's people like you that are the reason everybody's perception on steroids are so misconstrued.

It's ignorance and ******ity like you display in both of your threads on PED's, that is the reason humanity is headed for impending doom.

I enjoy watching Pacquiao fight, but I'm not a blind nuthugger

again....more truth and wisdom being spoken. All of those things like HGH, EPO etc were first made to help people with certain ailments....FACT

It also pisses me off when people only post one side of the spectrum because there are people out there with **** certain type of anemia, and other disorders who would benefit greatly from these, yet people like WADA etc only show the neg. affects, not of use but abuse in order to trash a drug....leaving the naive and general public with a false perception of the use of these drugs.

I swear GSP....you stay kickin knowledge....green K homie

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Owned!!!!!!!!!!!

In all honesty this dude just kicked some serious knowledge. I find it comical that these flamers post article n **** and have no idea what they are talking about...lol

In all honesty....how many people on here know that HGH is a harmone the body naturally produces itself? How many people on this site know that everyone has HGH in their body? Just curious because this is pretty basic knowledge IMO...yet I'm sure alot of you flamers don't know but you post articles etc like you guys are some type of experts on it.

Almost every steroid is a hormone the body natural produces. But the human body does not produce it in the amounts that PED users use.

Of course OSIRIS you've already become well known as a true ******* and Manny funboy so your uneducated opinion is worth squat. Over say the scientist and experts of WADA and USADA. GH is made by the pituitary gland, EPO by the Kidneys, and Testosterone by the sexual organs. Are you idiots trying to say that because they are made in the body they aren't PED's lol? Like I said where is your MD's and degrees in science?

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Your attempt to glorify steroid use and abuse as OK is misguided and appalling. The body only makes a certain amount of these substances for a reason. If you aren't sick or prescribed by a licensed doctor then you shouldn't be taking them. HGH abuse will lead to growth abnormalities and arthritis. EPO abuse can lead to thickening of the blood and overproduction of erythrocytes. The side effects of anabolic steroids have already been well documented and are common knowledge in the medical community. Ask any doctor about the dangers of PED's they will tell you not to take them. I post professional facts and links you only post conjecture and asinine opinion.

[Khalid X]

Almost every steroid is a hormone the body natural produces. But the human body does not produce it in the amounts that PED users use.

Of course OSIRIS you've already become well known as a true ******* and Manny funboy so your uneducated opinion is worth squat. Over say the scientist and experts of WADA and USADA. HGH is made by the pituitary gland, by the Kidneys, and Testosterone by the sexual organs. Are you idiots trying to say that because they are made in the body they aren't PED's lol? Like I said where is your MD's and degrees in science?

Why are you asking for my credential etc? If I posted anything it would come off as bragging, something that is not in my nature.

As far as me bring that up, I never said you didn't know its just the majority of posters post stuff about it and have no idea what they are talking about. If you do that's cool and good for you. With that said, I brought up the fact that it is produced natural because that is the reason it has been difficult to detect.

In reality, I never refuted what they have said. I just stated that they only bring up the negative effects of using these, and not the benefits, leaving the general public with negative ideas when the name HGH, EPO etc are brought up.


FWIW...the test Floyd wanted to implement would have worked anyway and the only way the sport will get cleaned up is via commission based/year round testing.