Freddie Roach thinks Manny would beat Whitaker and Duran at 135..

[Hannibal Barca]

fact is pacman won the 2nd fight.. lol. doesnt matter who thought what. manny won the second fight officially.

ducked raheem and guzman?! lol.. pacman ducking anybody is ridiculous.. he moves up to face the likes of oscar/hatton/cotto/clottey and he's ducking raheem and guzman? lol

sasakul is slick.. and pac's old trainer is probably mad he's not the one behind pacquaio's historic run.. lol

mosley was too good of a fighter before roach saw how well pacquaio fought cotto and clottey..

agree to disagree.. last post regarding this topic.. this back and forth won't end..

So the opinions of boxing analyst don't matter when it fits your agenda, but when their opinions do, you suddenly agree with them? Hypocrisy at it's finest. A few moments ago, it was "well analyst say this and that, haha".

He did duck Raheem and Guzman. In fact, I believe Guzman wrote an open letter to Pac asking for a fight and Pac refused to step in the ring with him. We all know the story of Raheem. Morales beats down Pac, Raheem beats down Morales. Who's Pac fight? The man coming off an L, and not the man that dominated the man with the L ,11 out of 12 rounds.

Pac also ducked Mosely, who according to Roach, "was too good a fighter for Pac". And Pac ducked Mayweather.

Why would he be mad?

It wont end because you're talking out your ass. You don't know what you're talking about.

[STREET CLEANER]

fact is pacman won the 2nd fight.. lol. doesnt matter who thought what. manny won the second fight officially.

ducked raheem and guzman?! lol.. pacman ducking anybody is ridiculous.. he moves up to face the likes of oscar/hatton/cotto/clottey and he's ducking raheem and guzman? lol

sasakul is slick.. and pac's old trainer is probably mad he's not the one behind pacquaio's historic run.. lol

mosley was too good of a fighter before roach saw how well pacquaio fought cotto and clottey..

agree to disagree.. last post regarding this topic.. this back and forth won't end..

The only slick fighter that comes to my mind at the time the Pac could had fought was Casamayor. The timing for other slick fighters wasn't there or an acclaim to fight Casamayor

[Merashjai07]

Manny is greater than duran in my book. If Manny beats Floyd then hes top 5 all time. If Floyd beat Manny EASY then talks of him being the greatest will reach an all time high!

If Manny actually fights and beats the winner of Mosely Floyd, then Roach is absolutely right.

[| THE KING |]

I like Pac but when I write anything negative I'm classified as a hater or a ***** (don't like Floyd but I recognize his skills). To say flat out that he would beat either these guys is not a good statemen given the history of all 3 of these fighters. All of them in peek form would give problems to each other and you never know how would they do till they got into the right.

yea pac is my favorite fighter, but i still see his flaws. I know pac can lose a fight to one of the greats and even floyd. i recognize floyds skills as well, just want to see the fight happen. floyd vs pac is 50/50 for me.. offense/defense

it's just the downplaying of pacmans achievements is crazy. after every fighter there are excuses. who else is left for him to fight? you got people saying he should fight p will? p wills height and reach would be ridiculous, not saying manny doesn't have a chance, but i would not favor him. any fighter can lose like all the ATG have done.. have LOSSES on their record.

[Hannibal Barca]

Manny is greater than duran in my book. If Manny beats Floyd then hes top 5 all time. If Floyd beat Manny EASY then talks of him being the greatest will reach an all time high!

This is the madness I'm talking about.

[Hannibal Barca]

yea pac is my favorite fighter, but i still see his flaws. I know pac can lose a fight to one of the greats and even floyd. i recognize floyds skills as well, just want to see the fight happen. floyd vs pac is 50/50 for me.. offense/defense

it's just the downplaying of pacmans achievements is crazy. after every fighter there are excuses. who else is left for him to fight? you got people saying he should fight p will? p wills height and reach would be ridiculous, not saying manny doesn't have a chance, but i would not favor him. any fighter can lose like all the ATG have done.. have LOSSES on their record.

Most ATG's don't have loses to no name journeymen. Just thought I'd throw that in there...

Btw, people were claiming Floyd ducked Pwill not to long ago. So much for that ridiculous height and reach advantage.

[STREET CLEANER]

This is the madness I'm talking about.

You got to remember that a lot of these bloggers never seen these guys fight. They have seen a fight of them here and there but didn't followed them and saw the fight when it had significance. Alot of ppl go to BoxRec and just see names and numbers

[SusieQ.]

why the **** you think he lost to tito?...lol.. and i think chavez beat his ass tbh ....remind me how anyone owned me again!...you could never owned me, go get help if you want....lol

please dont talk nonsense...

[solo20]

yea pac is my favorite fighter, but i still see his flaws. I know pac can lose a fight to one of the greats and even floyd. i recognize floyds skills as well, just want to see the fight happen. floyd vs pac is 50/50 for me.. offense/defense

it's just the downplaying of pacmans achievements is crazy. after every fighter there are excuses. who else is left for him to fight? you got people saying he should fight p will? p wills height and reach would be ridiculous, not saying manny doesn't have a chance, but i would not favor him. any fighter can lose like all the ATG have done.. have LOSSES on their record.

funny then you must think Freddie Roach is a pile of crap by him downplaying Pac opponents if anybody is downplaying Pac achievements its Freddie Roach his f**ken trainer you wacko just like 97ruff told Freddie Roach to his on f**ken face your a great match maker and what did Freddie Roach do he just smile meaning he does not want to put Pac in with someone who really has a shot at beating him he waits into the fighters are shot or trys to weight drain them or stays far away from fighter who have good footwork

[DIB42]

I think pacman beats sweat pea at 147 but at 135 i dunno.... that'd be fun to watch