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Freddie Roach thinks Manny would beat Whitaker and Duran at 135..

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  • #81
    Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S View Post
    I just posted that because I felt like pissing a few people off. I would have said "if chavez beat whitaker, why cant Pac"....but someone already beat me to it...lol
    Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S View Post

    On a serious note...who gives a **** about these fantasy fights. No one will ever know who would win...so all of these convo's are really just a bunch of opinions.
    Oh ok lol. I was actually surpised that you would say that but now it makes sense. I would expect barcuda to say that but not you lol.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by baracuda View Post
      definitely......if sweetpea could'nt beat a young unexperienced hoya, how else would he beat packy......duran vs packy would definitely be a sight to watch but i think pac outspeeds him to win a UD.....
      Pac couldnt beat Marquez so how in the hell is he going to beat Pernell who was the best boxer P4P for so many years that people hated on him like they do Floyd right now. The tough fights he had with Chavez aND Delahoya were landslide victories. He clearly won both fights. Duran I dont know he may be to slow for Pac but who knows.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by Calilloyd View Post
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        Oh ok lol. I was actually surpised that you would say that but now it makes sense. I would expect barcuda to say that but not you lol.
        Honestly sometimes I feel people want to hear bull**** like that...so I give them exactly what they want. Just like when people were saying Clottey threw the fight against Pac and let Pac beat on him. In an attempt to ruffle some feathers, I went around saying the fight was 114-113 and actually closer than the Marquez fight.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by tesla_power View Post
          Why do you feel that baracuda? What rounds did you give JCC? IMO, it was a robbery in the sense that it should be a clear win for Whitaker. It was close but should be a minimum 7-5 rnd win for Whitaker.
          i dont exacty remember what my scorecards were, i remember chavez beatig pernell theo basesedon offesive workrate alone.......

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          • #85
            Originally posted by EMACULATE View Post
            Pac couldnt beat Marquez so how in the hell is he going to beat Pernell who was the best boxer P4P for so many years that people hated on him like they do Floyd right now. The tough fights he had with Chavez aND Delahoya were landslide victories. He clearly won both fights. Duran I dont know he may be to slow for Pac but who knows.
            Duran had fast hands and fast feet. If Duran loses to Pacquiao it surely isn't because of a lack of speed.

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            • #86
              Pacquiao fighting Whitaker would be the most horrible one sided UD ever in the history of boxing. Pacquiao's style just doesn't match up well against Whitaker. No matter how I look at it. Pacquiao's fundamentally challanged style would just wiff 90% of his attempts. Whitaker might not kayo him but that **** would be the most rediculous one sided boxing display I can imagine happening. You thought Mayweather-Baldomir was bad? Whitaker-Pacquiao would be even worse.


              Pacquiao fighting Duran, I give Pacquiao a much larger chance. It goes 50/50 in my opinion. Duran wasn't a defensive genius, slick or hard to hit. He liked to come forward and engage, not like a ****** of course but still he liked to duke it out. See who is the bigger man. Pacquiao would eat him alive if he decided to do that. Pacquiao just throws waaaay too many punches for Duran to handle comfortably. I think it goes 50/50 because Duran wasn't dumb and he was the real deal at lightweight, not the same guy at 147. So it could go either way, pretty even match up in my opinion.


              Whitaker vs Pacquiao just doesn't favor Pacquiao in any way shape or form.

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              • #87
                I got Pac beating the overated cab driver beater Chavez in manslaughter fashion.... Too slow, too predictable.....

                Pac may have trouble with Sweet Pea, but I think Pac could win...

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by baracuda View Post
                  lol, i thought youwere done with me....lol...anayways,huratdo was never as good as a young hoya...deal with it.....huratdo was crap compared to a hoya.....anyone who thinks a prime whitaker or cahevez could've competed vs hoya arte delutional.....you included!...no offense...lol
                  I was @ the fight, and man most of the people there knew what time it was. Sweet Pea pulled out that victory. It wasn't the first time he was on the short end of the stick. I remember in particular when De La Hoya missed like 9 different times haha, crazy. Anyway, I can't see anyway in hell Pac beating Pea @ 35, it just ain't happening my friend.

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                  • #89
                    Pernell was good in his time, in comparison to what was around at that time, which made him look better than he was. But Pac would beat him. Unless Pernell is consider top 5atg why should people consider he might beat Pac?

                    Pac would beat Duran as well. Pac is just more dominant than Duran was.

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                    • #90
                      at 135...

                      whitaker>pac (due to style)
                      duran< pac (due to pac being faster)

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