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  • IMDAZED
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    #51
    Originally posted by shogunn
    If he was gaining water weight, how is he on roids now. How much lean muscle did he actually gain from what Victor Conte said is "su****ious"?

    his jump from 130-145 was 15lbs of lean muscle?

    you do know the morning of the clottey weigh in he weighed 141. He had to eat 2 meals to get to 145.

    Does he lose 6lbs of muscle every night? Since you guys measure his body fat percentages, id like to know how much exact "lean muscle" he's gained over a period of 2 years that makes him so su****ous.

    I would think taking roids and eating 7000 calories a day he would weigh nearly 200lbs, all muscle, and would look closer to a body builder than a lean boxer.
    Man, you're not thinking.

    Water weight is easily shed. Most fighters do it. Lean muscle mass is something else. Furthermore, we don't know WHAT kind of performance enhancer he's using.

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      #52
      Originally posted by Dave Rado
      “Adding Conte as your steroid/PED consultant is like employing Jack The Ripper to teach your wife or daughter how to avoid sexual assault.” … Michael Marley.
      So what does this mean? That he doesn't know what he's talking about when he speaks on PEDs?

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        #53
        Originally posted by IMDAZED
        Man, you're not thinking.

        Water weight is easily shed. Most fighters do it. Lean muscle mass is something else. Furthermore, we don't know WHAT kind of performance enhancer he's using.
        whats this? somehow u r absolutely convinced some guy is on peds.

        yet u dont know which kind he's using. some expert u r.

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          #54
          Originally posted by Blubba
          whats this? somehow u r absolutely convinced some guy is on peds.

          yet u dont know which kind he's using. some expert u r.
          Who said I was an expert?

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            #55
            Originally posted by IMDAZED
            Who said I was an expert?
            well said.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Blubba
              well said.
              Try it sometime.

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              • shogunn
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                #57
                Originally posted by IMDAZED
                Man, you're not thinking.

                Water weight is easily shed. Most fighters do it. Lean muscle mass is something else. Furthermore, we don't know WHAT kind of performance enhancer he's using.
                furthermore you guys act like you know what he's taking since you thin he can just mask it so easily

                lean muscle mass is something else. But you guys are su****ious of what could be just 5lbs of lean muscle mass.

                The fact is you dont know how much lean muscle mass he's gained, you dont measure his body fat percentage, or have any record of them. are you telling us he gained 12 lbs of muscle mass in a matter of a few months?

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  So what does this mean? That he doesn't know what he's talking about when he speaks on PEDs?
                  He knows how to use them, but he's hardly a trustworthy source of opinion. His background makes him the most biased and cynical imaginable witness. And he only knows about how to cheat, he is far from being an expert on legal modern nutritional science or training methods - which the statement you quoted would require him to be for it to be worth ****.
                  Last edited by Dave Rado; 04-07-2010, 04:34 PM.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by shogunn
                    furthermore you guys act like you know what he's taking since you thin he can just mask it so easily

                    lean muscle mass is something else. But you guys are su****ious of what could be just 5lbs of lean muscle mass.

                    The fact is you dont know how much lean muscle mass he's gained, you dont measure his body fat percentage, or have any record of them. are you telling us he gained 12 lbs of muscle mass in a matter of a few months?
                    I'm saying I don't care. You're taking the conversation elsewhere and I'm not biting. My INITIAL statement was in regards to those who say "Well he weighed 148 on fight night when he was a lightweight" like that somehow means something. It means nothing.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Dave Rado
                      He knows how to use them, but he's hardly a trustworthy source of opinion. His background makes him the most biased and cynical imaginable witness. And he only knows about how to cheat, he is far from being an expert on legal modern nutritional science or training methods - which the statement you quoted would require him to be for it to be worth ****.
                      Why do you say his background makes him biased? You do realize his background in nutritional science is extensive? In fact, brilliant?

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