Another Fighter Asks 4 Stricter Drug Testing

[shogunn]

It wasn't a known issue then. Why didn't the USA combat terrorism like they do now before the year 2001? Bingo.

Fact is, Pacquiao moving in weight without losing power, stamina, speed is VERY su****ious on itself. It's unprecedented. We aren't talking about a Paul Williams here who is a very large frame, we are talking about a small fighter fighting bigger men in their weight classes and KOing them like they were amateurs. If i was in Floyd's shoes with so much to lose, I'd ask for random blood tests anyway. Even if Pacquiao is clean and he's a freak of nature, he must accept the tests come with the reputation, it's a minor inconvenient. Like being chased around by paparazzi is an inconvenient for a regular celebrity. To DENY the random tests only increases su****ion and make people now want to be sure why he did it. Neither of the excuses for NOT TAKING the test should be bought by grownups.

what? you just told us marion jones wasnt being tested in the offseason, and tahts how she wasnt caught roiding. We dont even know if thats true.

What about floyd? is he tested during the offseason? isnt that the whole point of olympic testing? you just completely dodged that point and started talking mumbling about something else. You brought US terrorism into like its supposed to mean something? was that a joke

So, to ask again. Will floyd be tested during his offseason?

[Dave Rado]

So why do people give him loads of credit as if hes this smallish fighter then? I hear hes a light weight etc..

His fight night weight is much lower than most Welters (the only other Welter with such a low fight night weight is Floyd). That's why.

He's the same height and has the same reach as Cotto. He's not a small Welterweight in any sense other than the sense that his fight night weight is very low for a Welterweight.

[shogunn]

That's impossible. Yeah, he showed up weighing 144-149...of WATER WEIGHT.

yeah, because you were measuring his body fat percentage and muscle mass the entire time.

please floyd fans, keep talking like you know something.

[IMDAZED]

yeah, because you were measuring his body fat percentage and muscle mass the entire time.

please floyd fans, keep talking like you know something.

Yeah because he gains 10lbs of lean muscle mass overnight.

What a dumba**.

[Vasyl’s dad]

And the fact that Mosley was able to beat the "fine and efficient" testing proves your point.

and you know what point Marion Jones proves, right?

[IMDAZED]

and you know what point Marion Jones proves, right?

That she didn't take today's testing?

[Dave Rado]

I know history, it has never been done, not once. Pacquiao did set the record for the most divisions he was a titleholder in, right?

As O.S.I.R.I.S. pointed out, there only used to be eight divisions. In addition to that, Pac turned pro when he was only 15 and won his first world title when he had only just turned twenty. It's normal for fighters that young to put on weight. Thirdly, he's had very good nutritionists and is very good at following their instructions. Fourthly, and perhaps most importantly, he spent most of his childhood as a homeless vagrant and didn't have access to a really good diet or good trainers until after he'd won his first world title. And in terms of the weight gap, several former Middleweights have won world Heavyweight titles, which is arguably more impressive than what Pac has achieved.

[IMDAZED]

As O.S.I.R.I.S. pointed out, there only used to be eight divisions. In addition to that, Pac turned pro when he was only 15 and won his first world title when he had only just turned twenty. It's normal for fighters that young to put on weight at that age. Thirdly, he's had very good nutritionists and is very good at following their instructions. And in terms of the weight gap, several former Middleweights have won world Heavyweight titles, which is arguably more impressive than what Pac has achieved.

yeah there only used to be eight divisions - meaning the MW champ could weigh 149lbs. Heck, some MW champs weighed 140. Cannot compare yesteryear to today.

[shogunn]

Yeah because he gains 10lbs of lean muscle mass overnight.

What a dumba**.

If he was gaining water weight, how is he on roids now. How much lean muscle did he actually gain from what Victor Conte said is "su****ious"?

his jump from 130-145 was 15lbs of lean muscle?

you do know the morning of the clottey weigh in he weighed 141. He had to eat 2 meals to get to 145.

Does he lose 6lbs of muscle every night? Since you guys measure his body fat percentages, id like to know how much exact "lean muscle" he's gained over a period of 2 years that makes him so su****ous.

I would think taking roids and eating 7000 calories a day he would weigh nearly 200lbs, all muscle, and would look closer to a body builder than a lean boxer.

[Dave Rado]

“Is it su****ious the way (Pacquiao) has gained so much lean muscle mass while retaining and even seemingly improving his power and speed? Yes,” Conte says. “It is highly su****ious. But it’s difficult to make any type of allegations against him because he’s never tested positive for illegal drugs. The problem is that he has been subjected, as is the case with all boxers, to the standard urine testing that, in my opinion, is worthless.

“Adding Conte as your steroid/PED consultant is like employing Jack The Ripper to teach your wife or daughter how to avoid sexual assault.” … Michael Marley.