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  • IMDAZED
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    #71
    Originally posted by shogunn
    yeah, the point is he cant be trusted. again, how is he suspcious of mannys lean muscle mass gains when he doesnt even know how much muscle mass he's gained.

    His fight night weight teetered 5lbs give or take the past 5 years. Im questioning his quote
    Why can't he be trusted with regards to this issue? Because he knows it too well?

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    • Khalid X
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      #72
      Originally posted by No Ceilings
      So why do people give him loads of credit as if hes this smallish fighter then? I hear hes a light weight etc..
      He is a natural LW. That is why what he is doing at WW is so amazing.


      Originally posted by IMDAZED
      That's impossible. Yeah, he showed up weighing 144-149...of WATER WEIGHT.
      ??? You quoted me and I have no idea what you are talking about. I said he has come weighing between 144-149 on fight night since 06 when he was at 130. This is in response to you claiming that he has added all this muscle mass. He has not, and while he may have gotten slightly bigger (if even that) the real difference is that he doesn't cut weight like most fighters do (including himself back then).

      Originally posted by IMDAZED
      Yeah because he gains 10lbs of lean muscle mass overnight.

      What a dumba**.
      He doesn't gain that. He may rehydrate up to that but not add on muscle mass like that.

      Originally posted by IMDAZED
      Man, you're not thinking.

      Water weight is easily shed. Most fighters do it. Lean muscle mass is something else. Furthermore, we don't know WHAT kind of performance enhancer he's using.
      He isn't using any. Correction yes he is.....fish, rice and God are Pacquiao's steroid

      Originally posted by IMDAZED
      I'm saying I don't care. You're taking the conversation elsewhere and I'm not biting. My INITIAL statement was in regards to those who say "Well he weighed 148 on fight night when he was a lightweight" like that somehow means something. It means nothing.
      why doesnt it mean anything. He was at 148 when he fought Diaz, 149 for DLH and Hatton and more than likely the same weight against Cotto and Clottey (rumored to be that weight). You say it means nothing....but yes it does, because it kills your arguement that Pac has somehow put on all the muscle mass. Dudes been around that size since his fights with Morales

      Originally posted by Imhotep
      Correction why are *******s against a cleaner sport?Answer:Cause their God will be exposed then their self Esteem will drop back to the low level it was before they heard of Pacquiao.
      Me and others Pac fans were the first to post contact info to the NVSA commission to help others voice there concerns. We all want a cleaner sport, but at the same time we recognize that Floyd is going about it the wrong way.

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        #73
        Originally posted by shogunn
        yeah, the point is he cant be trusted. again, how is he suspcious of mannys lean muscle mass gains when he doesnt even know how much muscle mass he's gained.

        His fight night weight teetered 5lbs give or take the past 5 years. Im questioning his quote

        exactly. This right here kills that bull**** statement about Pac adding all this muscle mass. Anybody who knows the human body knows that everyone puts on weight when they reach 30. I mean people act like it's impossible to natural grow 5-10lbs from the age of 25(prime) to 30 plus years old. **** happens all the time.

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          #74
          Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
          He is a natural LW. That is why what he is doing at WW is so amazing.




          ??? You quoted me and I have no idea what you are talking about. I said he has come weighing between 144-149 on fight night since 06 when he was at 130. This is in response to you claiming that he has added all this muscle mass. He has not, and while he may have gotten slightly bigger (if even that) the real difference is that he doesn't cut weight like most fighters do (including himself back then).



          He doesn't gain that. He may rehydrate up to that but not add on muscle mass like that.



          He isn't using any. Correction yes he is.....fish, rice and God are Pacquiao's steroid



          why doesnt it mean anything. He was at 148 when he fought Diaz, 149 for DLH and Hatton and more than likely the same weight against Cotto and Clottey (rumored to be that weight). You say it means nothing....but yes it does, because it kills your arguement that Pac has somehow put on all the muscle mass. Dudes been around that size since his fights with Morales



          Me and others Pac fans were the first to post contact info to the NVSA commission to help others voice there concerns. We all want a cleaner sport, but at the same time we recognize that Floyd is going about it the wrong way.

          I think you're agreeing with me...

          BTW, what's the RIGHT way to go about what Floyd is doing?

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            #75
            Originally posted by Imhotep
            Does`nt change the fact that Pacquiao refuses a drug test cause he obviously have something to hide.
            In the ********ic world we have a maxim of innocent until proved guilty. In dictatorships they believe you are guilty until proved innocent. You clearly come from a dictatorship, given your attitude.

            And the fact is, your whole thread was based on you failing to read the article that you posted. So not only are you anti-democracy, you're also illiterate.

            If Wlad tells Povetkin to take a running jump with his arrogant demands, I suppose you'll claim that Wlad obviously must have something to hide. If so, you're even more of an idiot than you appear to be.
            Last edited by Dave Rado; 04-08-2010, 10:18 AM.

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              #76
              Originally posted by Erik18

              OST wouldn't have caught Mosley anyway!
              OST would have noticed the spiike in SM's hematocrit level, and that would have ensnared him.

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