And btw, Tszyu is not just a great champ. He could well be an all-time great.
Hatton Pound for Pound?
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Originally posted by DLTNow this is where things get interesting. Everytime a top fighter loses, all these media guys bump the opponent way up. Do you remember Tarver going into the top 5 and some places even higher like 3 or 2? Now where will the media and fans put Hatton after beating a guy who everyone had top 5, most had top 3, and some had #1? I think they wont give Hatton his respect.
Roy Jones looked completely washed up but no one was willing to admit it and they said that Tarver beat the best. Now Tszyu didnt looked washed up but watch how they try to make every excuse for him and thats why they wont move Hatton high.
Here is my list
1)Hopkins
2)Mayweather
3)Wright
4)Chico
5)Hatton
6)Castillo
7)R. Marquez
8)Zab
9)Morales
10)Toney
11)Ouma
12)MAB/Pac
all i know is either you have to have hatton in the p4p list or soemthing becuase he completely dropped tszyu off and he was top 3 in most p4p list..IF you cant put a fighter on for beating the best in the division then why should you drop a fighter off for one fightComment
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I 100% AGREE WITH YOU, TO BE IN THE TOP U HAVE TO BEAT TOP NOTCH COMPETITON THREW OUT UR CAREER. IF U BEAT 1 GREAT FIGHTER BEAT ANOTHER AND KEEP PROVING TO EVERY1 THAT YOUR TOP TEN MATERIALOriginally posted by BROWN BOMBERSame goes for Pac, and Winky didnt even beat a champ.
He beat a guy who beat a smaller guy and had come off 2 years of nothing.
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Boxers/fighters take too long in between fights to keep this P4P myth accurate. Months, sometimes years (PBF) before they fight again. I wish there was a rule 4 fights per year or something. Until then just wait until PBF gets beat everyone will throw Gatti in the #2 spot or vice versa. Then when B-Hop gets rocked by Taylor will Taylor be #1? Who cares mayun. Do any of these boxers care about us? Do they pay your rent? I doubt it so enjoy your weekend...its not too later to go to the strip club guys...later~!Comment
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Here's the real argument. Is P4P based on your last performance or on your entire body of work (your whole career)? Ranking Hatton P4P would be like ranking a minor league pitcher that shut out the New York Yankees in a 1 game series in his first game in the majors. It just doesn't make sense. That pitcher may have the potential to be great but you can't tell if he's great based on one performance. One significant win and thirty-something minor wins is not enough to rank Hatton top 10 P4P. Look at the accomplishments of everyone ranked in the top 10 P4P by this website. Now compare their accomplishments to Hatton's. He's not in their league yet. You have to beat multiple very good to great fighters to be in the P4P rankings. Otherwise its just a list based on who's last fight was the best. You may think that Hatton is the best fighter right now and you may be right but that doesn't mean that he doesn't have to PROVE that he is the best fighter.
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Look at the other names on your list and ask yourself, did they make it to the list based soley on one big win?Originally posted by DLTHere is my list
1)Hopkins
2)Mayweather
3)Wright
4)Chico
5)Hatton
6)Castillo
7)R. Marquez
8)Zab
9)Morales
10)Toney
11)Ouma
12)MAB/Pac
You've got Hatton ahead of both Morales and Barerra! WTF is that? Has Hatton proven that much by beating Zoo?Comment
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I wouldn't rank him P4P. I would put him on top of his division but that's it. It takes time to be a top P4P fighter, which is why a lot of fighters are close to retiring by the time they are on top or near the top.Originally posted by (V)anny_Pwhere would you put Taylor (P4P rank) if Taylor happens to beat B-Hop convincingly?Comment
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P4P lists are always interesting.
I like the "current" lists to be separate from the "all time".
Hatton has no place on either, not yet anyway. Looks like he might though, if he can actually get the big fights and show what he can do.Comment
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