Muhammad Ali would toy with Wladimir Klitschko

[Benny Leonard]

ali is overrated...he struggled vs wepner.......vitali >>>>wepner....not saying,vitali would win but it would be pretty close fight imo......

They would be close fights but using the version of Ali that fought Wepner...really?

If you talk "Fantasy" matchups...we put the fighters in the respective peaks.

[Scott9945]

Im talking Prime and not age. Ali's prime was in the 1964 to 1967 range before the layoff. He fought Norton in 1975, 1977, in that range at 35, 36 years old. Remember Ali was a boxer and speed was a major key to his overall style. He was able to make adjustments in the 70s that made him still a great fighter. But im talking prime Ali who could box for 15 rounds without getting tired and throw combos like a 160 pounder.

If we're being honest, then you have to say that Ali's competition in the 1960's was even worse than Klitschko's.

[street bully]

If we're being honest, then you have to say that Ali's competition in the 1960's was even worse than Klitschko's.

Liston, Patterson, Terrell, are you on crack?

[SN!PER]

Liston, Patterson, Terrell

Word. Even a mid-sixties version of Cleveland Williams would destroy most of todays fat, unskilled HWs.

[Scott9945]

Liston, Patterson, Terrell, are you on crack?

The Liston win was huge (well the first one), but Patterson was washed up and Terrell wasn't any better than someone like Tony Thompson.

[Scott9945]

Word. Even a mid-sixties version of Cleveland Williams would destroy most of todays fat, unskilled HWs.

No, he wouldn't. Williams was very ordinary by the time he fought Ali. Try looking at his record.

[baracuda]

They would be close fights but using the version of Ali that fought Wepner...really?

If you talk "Fantasy" matchups...we put the fighters in the respective peaks.

thats the thing about fantasy matchups....nobody could ever prove anyone wrong.....you wanna know whta i think, hollyfield is the greatest hw of all time, ali or any other hw aint got **** on him, and he's a very small hw too.....p4p , hollyfield and tyson are the greatest...imo

[Calilloyd]

If we're being honest, then you have to say that Ali's competition in the 1960's was even worse than Klitschko's.

If you were being honest you would admit that Sonny Liston is better than anybody that Wladimir Klitschko has ever fought.

[F l i c k e r]

Exactly. Ali didn't toy with a lot of good fighters. Maybe Liston and Terrell.

Ali is a matchup that actually favors Wlad until you factor in Ali's will and stamina versus Wlad's average stamina. Ali can win on attrition alone.

This, this says it all.

[Calilloyd]

The Liston win was huge (well the first one), but Patterson was washed up and Terrell wasn't any better than someone like Tony Thompson.

Terrell was much better than Tony Thompson. You're being ridiculous.Terrell beat top fighters like Eddie Machen, Cleveland Williams, Zora Folley, Ingemar Johnason, and George Chuvalo. What top rated fighters has Thompson ever beaten? His biggest wins were Dominique Guinn,Timar ibrigimov and Luan Krasniqi. Either you're misinformed, uniformed, or just a delusional Klitschko fan. It amazes me when people like you try to discredit Ali to make Klitschko look better.