PAC is the #1 WW unless somebody actually beats him

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  • War Dinamita
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    #31
    Originally posted by WANGLER JR
    but ssm hasnt done anything since then, whereas pac obliterated cotto who beat ssm, and then beat clottey who arguably beat cotto

    pac is on a role

    hes the top dawg at ww
    He still beat the crap out of a prime Margarito. Cotto has never been the same since he fought Margarito. SSM fought in the WW division, when the division was very competitive and had a lot of good boxers. Manny fought these guys after they beat each other and the division cleaned up by itself.

    Clottey is a B-level fighter and DLH is way past his prime. SSM is still the top WW in the world. You have to beat the man to be the man.

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    • War Dinamita
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      #32
      Originally posted by baracuda
      we only go in circles if we look at it like that......whos' the ring mag's # 1ww and who ranks shane # 1 that is more credible than the ring rankings?...
      Manny has to beat the man to be the man in the division. That simple.

      If Manny would have fought SSM last year and won... we wouldn't be having this discussion at all.

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        #33
        Sorry but Mosley is the #1 WW. Shane beat the #1 guy at WW and that was Margarito. Other than that, Pac is #2. I don't think Floyd shouldn't even be ranked seeing that he fought a bloated lightweight. If Floyd didn't retire then he would be #1.

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        • baracuda
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          #34
          Originally posted by California Love
          Manny has to beat the man to be the man in the division. That simple.

          If Manny would have fought SSM last year and won... we wouldn't be having this discussion at all.
          lol.....ive got the ring rankings to back up my claim, you only have your opinion..........lol

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            #35
            Originally posted by California Love
            He still beat the crap out of a prime Margarito. Cotto has never been the same since he fought Margarito. SSM fought in the WW division, when the division was very competitive and had a lot of good boxers. Manny fought these guys after they beat each other and the division cleaned up by itself.

            Clottey is a B-level fighter and DLH is way past his prime. SSM is still the top WW in the world. You have to beat the man to be the man.
            i see why the pinoys turned you red

            yes mosley was the best ww but his inactivity killed it


            pac takes it

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            • War Dinamita
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              #36
              Originally posted by WANGLER JR
              i see why the pinoys turned you red

              yes mosley was the best ww but his inactivity killed it


              pac takes it
              Why are you blaming him because other fighters wanted nothing to do with him in 2009? It's not his fault Manny ducked him in 2009 because he's too good and Floyd was still on vacation? Blaming him for being inactive is a dumb reason to remove him as the #1 WW, when the guy was begging the other top 2 guys for a whole year.

              You would still consider Manny the best WW if SSM had fought Berto and won instead of the fight being canceled?

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                #37
                Originally posted by California Love
                Why are you blaming him because other fighters wanted nothing to do with him in 2009? It's not his fault Manny ducked him in 2009 because he's too good and Floyd was still on vacation? Blaming him for being inactive is a dumb reason to remove him as the #1 WW, when the guy was begging the other top 2 guys for a whole year.

                You would still consider Manny the best WW if SSM had fought Berto and won instead of the fight being canceled?
                pacquiao didnt duck him

                he simply took the biggest money fight

                dont be a hater

                mosley could have fought in 2009 but he chose to wait for pac and floyd thats not my fault

                and no i wouldnt consider pac the best ww if ssm had fought and beat berto

                i would consider him one of the best but not the best

                same goes for mosley

                a fight between them would determine the best

                they would be tied in my opinion

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                • War Dinamita
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by WANGLER JR
                  pacquiao didnt duck him

                  he simply took the biggest money fight

                  dont be a hater

                  mosley could have fought in 2009 but he chose to wait for pac and floyd thats not my fault

                  and no i wouldnt consider pac the best ww if ssm had fought and beat berto

                  i would consider him one of the best but not the best

                  same goes for mosley

                  a fight between them would determine the best

                  they would be tied in my opinion
                  Roach never told SSM he's too good when he begged him for a fight with Manny?

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                  • The Loller
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by David_TheMan
                    how is Pac the number 1 WW when he hasn't fought and beaten the #1 WW? Shane is still #1 if Floyd wins he will be the #1 WW.
                    Shane who got beaten by Cotto ? LOL!

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by The Loller
                      I doubt Berto could....Floyd Jr. is scared and Mosley is shot, old and rusty.....true stories
                      I agree....

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