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Oscar De LeHoya: What has he ever done to warrant ATG status?

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  • Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic View Post
    I just looked up the dates for Margarito's fights.

    00 - 3 times
    01 - 2 times
    02 - 2 times
    03 - 2 times
    04 - 2 times
    05 - 2 times
    06 - 2 times
    07 - 2 times
    08 - 2 times
    09 - 1 time..then came the suspension

    Want to keep failing?
    When is the last time that Mosley fought under once a year besides the last one? He just had a 10 month off period between the Cotto and Mayorga fights and fought Collazo like 9 months before he fought Cotto. Margarito went through stretches of his career of where he only fought once every 10 or 11 months and those numbers you just gave don't prove me wrong. Mosley beat Margarito who was the #1 Welterweight in the world and if you want to go by a magazine who once had Khan ranked over Devon Alexander at 140 then more power to you.

    I'm not saying Margarito is more inactive than Mosley. He went through stretches of inactivity though. But does that mean he should've been disqualified from his position? Cotto and Floyd had already fought better opposition than Margarito did at 147 until he fought Clottey. What was Margarito's best win before that? Antonio Diaz? Lol.

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    • de lejoya was ****!!!!!

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      • no one really calls him an all time great though...

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        • If you lose to every great fighter. You are not on their level. Thats obvious.

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          • Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
            Please somebody tell me.
            i thought he beat trinidad convincingly. many think he beat mosley in p2. oba carr had only lost to quatey and trinidad when oscar got him. i count carr.

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            • Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
              If you lose to every great fighter. You are not on their level. Thats obvious.
              But he didn't. He beat Chavez (x2), Whitaker, Trinidad and Mosley (at 154lbs) for starters. Okay the Whitaker fight is arguable, personally I had it a draw I think (long time since I've watched it though, and longer since I've scored it).

              He lost to Mayweather and Pacquiao but these are like high end ATGs. Top 40 or 50. Plus he was past his best and was actually very competitive with Floyd--no small feat.

              Hopkins was bigger than him and De La Hoya was in the fight up until the KO.

              You do not even consistently compete with guys like that unless you are great yourself. The only time De La Hoya ever looked like he wasn't fit to share a ring with a fighter was the Pacquiao fight, and we all know the story behind that one.

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              • He is an ATG because he has a pretty face. Stop hating, you jealous mother****ers.

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                • Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
                  Please somebody tell me.
                  6 time paper champion.

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                  • Originally posted by S.G. View Post
                    But he didn't. He beat Chavez (x2), Whitaker, Trinidad and Mosley (at 154lbs) for starters. Okay the Whitaker fight is arguable, personally I had it a draw I think (long time since I've watched it though, and longer since I've scored it).

                    He lost to Mayweather and Pacquiao but these are like high end ATGs. Top 40 or 50. Plus he was past his best and was actually very competitive with Floyd--no small feat.

                    Hopkins was bigger than him and De La Hoya was in the fight up until the KO.

                    You do not even consistently compete with guys like that unless you are great yourself. The only time De La Hoya ever looked like he wasn't fit to share a ring with a fighter was the Pacquiao fight, and we all know the story behind that one.
                    If you going to give him credit for Whitaker then you can not give him credit for Tito and Shane.

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                    • Hes Ocar De La Hoya.

                      He really did give boxing everything he had, and FOUGHT EVERYONE. He even fought ****ing Hopkins.

                      His KO of Vargas was one of those fights that really carried the torch for boxing, IMO. Epic night.

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