Oscar De LeHoya: What has he ever done to warrant ATG status?

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  • Mr. Fantastic
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    #181
    Originally posted by Iceta Lives
    I know Floyd has fought his share of blown ups like JMM, Mitchell, and Hatton. But if you don't give him credit for beating some of the guys he's fought like Castillo when he was out weighed by a big margin then I don't know what to say. To me, that's why Floyd is gonna go down as a way greater fighter than De La Hoya. Like I said. De La Hoya has a losing record against guys who moved up in weight to fight him. The only guy Oscar beat that was smaller than him at the peak of his career was Gatti. Floyd never lost the blown ups he fought. I'll tell you that right now. And if he beats Mosley it's only gonna further his legacy.
    Floyd is only greater cause he didn't take the risks DLH took. That's all. Floyd wouldn't of gone through his resume undefeated. I don't think ANYONE CAN.

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      #182
      Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic
      Floyd is only greater cause he didn't take the risks DLH took. That's all. Floyd wouldn't of gone through his resume undefeated. I don't think ANYONE CAN.
      You might be right. But it still doesn't make De La Hoya an all time great.

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        #183
        Originally posted by Iceta Lives
        You might be right. But it still doesn't make De La Hoya an all time great.
        Then answer why only ONE person in the history of boxing has won titles in 6 divisions??

        A person who isn't an ATG would only win a title in like, lets say...one or 2 divisions. This dude got 6.

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          #184
          Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic
          Then answer why only ONE person in the history of boxing has won titles in 6 divisions??

          A person who isn't an ATG would only win a title in like, lets say...one or 2 divisions. This dude got 6.
          One of em he didn't deserve against Sturm. And he was never dominant in any division once he moved up to 147. He was never linear at 154. You've got to be able to see through some of that stuff like the picture frame it is. I don't give Floyd and Pac credit for every single title they won in each division. Oscar is no different.

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            #185
            Originally posted by Iceta Lives
            One of em he didn't deserve against Sturm. And he was never dominant in any division once he moved up to 147. He was never linear at 154. You've got to be able to see through some of that stuff like the picture frame it is. I don't give Floyd and Pac credit for every single title they won in each division. Oscar is no different.
            he also got couple losses he didnt deserve either.

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              #186
              Originally posted by dj emz
              he also got couple losses he didnt deserve either.
              Both Trinidad and Mosley would've knocked him out if all those fights were 15 rounders. Oscar is a front runner and he lacked the championship drive that all the ATGs possessed.

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                #187
                Originally posted by Iceta Lives
                One of em he didn't deserve against Sturm. And he was never dominant in any division once he moved up to 147. He was never linear at 154. You've got to be able to see through some of that stuff like the picture frame it is. I don't give Floyd and Pac credit for every single title they won in each division. Oscar is no different.
                If he didn't deserve Sturm then he sure as hell deserved the wins vs Trinidad and Mosley. You can't have it both ways.

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                  #188
                  Originally posted by Iceta Lives
                  Both Trinidad and Mosley would've knocked him out if all those fights were 15 rounders. Oscar is a front runner and he lacked the championship drive that all the ATGs possessed.
                  Championship drive?? Are you serious?? How the hell was he able to knockdown Quartey in the 12th then?? If that wasn't drive to you then I don't know what to tell you.

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                    #189
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                    • Iceta Lives
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                      #190
                      Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic
                      Championship drive?? Are you serious?? How the hell was he able to knockdown Quartey in the 12th then?? If that wasn't drive to you then I don't know what to tell you.
                      I had De La Hoya beating Quartey, so don't worry about that. I'm talking about the Trinidad fight of where Tito chased him like a gay ****less flamingo in the last four rounds and how Mosley was rocking him in the last several rounds of the rematch while taking the fight over.
                      Last edited by Iceta Lives; 04-02-2010, 09:10 PM.

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