Oscar De LeHoya: What has he ever done to warrant ATG status?

[MARKBNLV]

Those fights were so close. Some could easily be wins for Oscar.
Great fighter in my eyes, first guy to stop Chavez - actually did it twice. Won over Pernell (past prime, I agree - but none the less, he won). Beat Camacho and alot of others solid fighters. Had the heart to move all the way up and face the giant - Bernard Hopkins.

And until the stoppage i had him ahead of Hopkins,he was flat ass robbed against Trinidad and you can debate he won the second Mosley fight,he fought the best out there for a long time never ducking anyone,he is in the top 100 for sure and i would label him as a great fighter,an atg no he is not top 25.

[jayblack]

He built a statue of himself in front of the Staples Center in L.A....

A place where he never won a fight.

[jayblack]

Oscar was dominant at 135 but two losses to Mosley, as well as Trinidad, Hopkins and Mayweather keep him from being called great. He had to win those fights to get to the elite status of fighters. Controversial scores against Quartey and past prime Whitaker don't help. Oscar's best win to me was over Vargas. And that was after Trinidad ruined Vargas IMO. He did have a great left hand but his right was not really used effectively until after he hired Floyd Mayweather sr.

Couldn't be put any better than this.

[bojangles1987]

Hes not a great fighter. Hes not on those fighters levels. Get it bro.

He whooped Tito and beat Mosley the second time, you can't talk about his controversial wins without talking about the times Oscar was f***ed over. It's a huge double standard. He is easily on the level of Trinidad and Mosley, if not better.

I guess it depends on what you call an ATG, if you are talking top 20 or top 50, Oscar may not make that. If you are listing the top 100 fighters ever, there's no way you leave Oscar off that and that makes him an ATG to me, not to mention the fact he kept the sport relevant after Tyson and before Mayweather and Pacquiao.

[andrew14]

ODLH is a man of 1990's and some of 2000.

he is one of the most exciting fighter since Mike Tyson is declining...

He is the CashCow.. hence if he beat both PBF and Pacman.. then when will you

put this guy huh???

[xcaret v3]

What has floyd done to warrant his ATG status if he retires today?

[check hook]

What has floyd done to warrant his ATG status if he retires today?

Well he's beaten future HOF's and he's beaten them unquestionably. As Lampley put it "these are not close fights....where Floyd's dominance is somehow being questioned"

If you question Floyd's claim to ATG status, then Pac's claim is certainly questionable......no matter how you slice it their resume's are equal, and in fact i would almost favour Floyd's resume........additionally Pac's dominance has been questioned on more than one occassion.

[check hook]

He whooped Tito and beat Mosley the second time, you can't talk about his controversial wins without talking about the times Oscar was f***ed over. It's a huge double standard. He is easily on the level of Trinidad and Mosley, if not better.

I guess it depends on what you call an ATG, if you are talking top 20 or top 50, Oscar may not make that. If you are listing the top 100 fighters ever, there's no way you leave Oscar off that and that makes him an ATG to me, not to mention the fact he kept the sport relevant after Tyson and before Mayweather and Pacquiao.

As much as i don't like him he is better than Trinidad and Mosley. Trinidad had limited footwork, a quality fighter with good movement who can smother his left would always give him problems. As for Mosley i thought he lost to ODLH the second time and he was juiced to the gills----> EPO, THG, Modanofil and Testosterone.........

[JBell11]

Please somebody tell me.

Good question. I believe he is a definite Hall of Famer (in the ring).

His contributions outside the ring have definitely impact the sport, especially the impact on the marketing/promotional effort for the sport. He's also has created schools and business ventures in his community.

SO...maybe he is an all time great when it comes to envdevours in and out the ring.

[TyrantT316]

Well he's going to the HOF period and he should because of his accomplishments and big fights.

Unfortunately, he won't be called and ATG. But credit given to him for the fights he has fought (even if just for high profile money).

Just imagine had he WON all his big fights....

Mosley - undefeated, top P4Per
Mosley 2
Hopkins - MW champ, top P4P
Trinidad - undefeated, top P4P
Mayweather - undefeated, top P4P
Vargas
Whitaker
Chavez
Pacquiao - top P4P
Quartey

whew...imagine that...