Oscar De LeHoya: What has he ever done to warrant ATG status?

[DAN916]

Hall of famer sure. All Time Great fighter no way. He lost almost every time he went up against an elite.

Yet he almost beat Mayweather at the end of his career!! lol

[Fox McCloud]

Yet he almost beat Mayweather at the end of his career!! lol

I agree... everyone should look at the top of their game in their fifth weight class.

Let's all take a moment to remember how awesome the guy in your signature looked in his fourth weight class in his last bout against Joshua Clottey.

[check hook]

Yet he almost beat Mayweather at the end of his career!! lol

if you think he almost beat Mayweather you don't know ****. He won 4 rds maximum, i gave him 3.

[Doctor_Tenma]

I had Oscar beating Tito, Mosley (Rematch, wasn't even close either). As for his win over Quartey, I never understood how that was a robbery; although it's been a while since I've watched it again. I also had him losing to Strum and Pernell Whitaker. However, I can see why he got the win against Whitaker, I wouldn't call that a robbery at all, it could have gone either way.

[Fox McCloud]

I had Oscar beating Tito, Mosley (Rematch, wasn't even close either). As for his win over Quartey, I never understood how that was a robbery; although it's been a while since I've watched it again. I also had him losing to Strum and Pernell Whitaker. However, I can see why he got the win against Whitaker, I wouldn't call that a robbery at all, it could have gone either way.

I really don't get how people could score Oscar winning the Quartey fight, but losing the Whitaker fight.

Oscar closed hard in the Quartey fight, but got beaten up too many rounds to win.

Whitaker and Oscar did nothing to each other. I thought Whitaker won, but... honestly, someone thinks De La Hoya won? I can accept that.

Quartey beat Oscar up a lot worse than Whitaker... for sure, and I think Oscar lost both fights.

[Doctor_Tenma]

I really don't get how people could score Oscar winning the Quartey fight, but losing the Whitaker fight.

Oscar closed hard in the Quartey fight, but got beaten up too many rounds to win.

Whitaker and Oscar did nothing to each other. I thought Whitaker won, but... honestly, someone thinks De La Hoya won? I can accept that.

Quartey beat Oscar up a lot worse than Whitaker... for sure, and I think Oscar lost both fights.

Been a long time since I watched it but I never got the impression that Quartey was robbed. Going by everyone's reaction, I might have to rewatch that. It's been long, I mean really really long since I watched it.

Against Whitaker, although Oscar would be the agressor sometimes, I saw him eat alot of jabs on the way in. So that has to count for something, but the thing that bothered me the most was how playful Whitaker got. I mean, Oscar isn't the kind of opponent you want to clown around against, but Whitaker took that **** to another level. If he would have faught more seriously, he would have won more decisively. Don't know if it's me, but Whitaker didn't seem to want it.

****, his will to win looked alot stronger against Tito.

[Fox McCloud]

Been a long time since I watched it but I never got the impression that Quartey was robbed. Going by everyone's reaction, I might have to rewatch that. It's been long, I mean really really long since I watched it.

Against Whitaker, although Oscar would be the agressor sometimes, I saw him eat alot of jabs on the way in. So that has to count for something, but the thing that bothered me the most was how playful Whitaker got. I mean, Oscar isn't the kind of opponent you want to clown around against, but Whitaker took that **** to another level. If he would have faught more seriously, he would have won more decisively. Don't know if it's me, but Whitaker didn't seem to want it.

****, his will to win looked alot stronger against Tito.

He obviously beat Trinidad... no one who isn't from PR can dispute that (suck it PR fans!).

The Whitaker fight was really a ton of nothing... counting who landed more jabs is a pathetic way of deciding a fight. Honestly... deciding how effective you thought a single punch was is an atrocious way of deciding who won a fight.

You should watch the ODLH-Quartey fight. I watched it, knowing Oscar won, and was pretty shocked... the decision was actually unacceptable in my opinion.

[Doctor_Tenma]

He obviously beat Trinidad... no one who isn't from PR can dispute that (suck it PR fans!).

The Whitaker fight was really a ton of nothing... counting who landed more jabs is a pathetic way of deciding a fight. Honestly... deciding how effective you thought a single punch was is an atrocious way of deciding who won a fight.

You should watch the ODLH-Quartey fight. I watched it, knowing Oscar won, and was pretty shocked... the decision was actually unacceptable in my opinion.

In the bold, best way to describe it.

I always have a scorecard for every fight that has a controversial decision, so I'll PM you with my scorecard once I watch.

[yeks]

ATG list is 100.. so I believe he belong somewhere there..

[GoogleMe]

Oscar was dominant at 135 but two losses to Mosley, as well as Trinidad, Hopkins and Mayweather keep him from being called great. He had to win those fights to get to the elite status of fighters. Controversial scores against Quartey and past prime Whitaker don't help. Oscar's best win to me was over Vargas. And that was after Trinidad ruined Vargas IMO. He did have a great left hand but his right was not really used effectively until after he hired Floyd Mayweather sr.

Those fights were so close. Some could easily be wins for Oscar.
Great fighter in my eyes, first guy to stop Chavez - actually did it twice. Won over Pernell (past prime, I agree - but none the less, he won). Beat Camacho and alot of others solid fighters. Had the heart to move all the way up and face the giant - Bernard Hopkins.